Labyrinth - 10 minute run and few tips for people who struggle

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Regulator wrote:

Claims it really fund an enjoyable content ---> Just quicksilvers through everything, skipping like 70% of the content

Claims it needs skill ---> Just quicksilvers through everything, stepping onto traps and facetanking izaro.

Claims it is easy ---> Of course it is, just quicksilvering through everything. Its an arcade style of gameplay, once you get familiar with it, its just a piece of cake.


People posting here must understand (seriously its not hard to do it - read and comprehend points made) that its the AC points gating and the totally alienating playstyle that drives so many of us to simply dislike the whole mini-game.

Nobody wants to take your fun, you can still run lab as you do everyday with the same rewards, enhanchements, lab-uniques and chests in the end. Your playstyle and enjoyment WOULD NOT be hampered in the slightest. In contrast for us who dislike the arcade mini-game in a hack and slash ARPG our fun, enjoyment and playstyle must suffer just to get AC points, because we wont (wouldnt) run lab in a million years if AC points were NOT gated behind that lame-ass excuse for mini-game.

For those who still dont understand or dont want to understand (ignorant trolls), think about a game genre that you dislike (first person shooters, MOBAS, adventure games, racing games, simulator games, strategy games etc.) now imagine if AC points were locked behind some of the aforementioned playstyle in a Hack and Slash ARPG game like PoE. Would you be frustrated or what? And dont answer with the most silly answer possible please (aka adapt)

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Regulator wrote:

Because the white knights of ignorance still dont get the point.

1) Never before an expansion gated the most vital, enganging and core aspect of PoE - the SKILL TREE. The labyrinth does and for only one single arrogant reason. Because if it didnt NOBODY will give a shit about the damn thing for more than a month (and im being extremely generous) and GGG's effort would be for nothing.

2) The mechanics and theme of the labyrinth are totally not fit for PoE. In my alpha feedback i said it reminded me of Neverwinter Nights and i totally want to take that back because the feeling is more like Mario and Contra. Mechanically you have to learn traps and the way the work, and then with the right timing use a movement skill to bypass an obstacle. If anyone of you doesnt know Contra and Mario please check them and see the obvious similarities. They are obviously not Hack and Slash games like PoE and here lies another problem, why PoE tries to be something its not? Whats next? Put horse/rhoa races similar to car racing games? Or put strategy game elements and we have to build army, houses, barracks and a town hall to vanquish out opponents?

3) Next we have a totally absurd designing fail. We all know PoE is way to unstable, uncustomizable, full of bugs and crashes, glitches and a fuckton of similar problems. Now GGG for a reason they think valid, decided that trap dmg is %. So in case of a spike in latency, HC players must forfeit their character to a 33lvl trap. GREAT DESIGN. You understand that the traps beside negating gear (which is fine by me) COMPLETELY NEGATE THE SKILL TREE CHOISES? You probably never thought it in that way, but for any decent HC player traps negate approximatelly 60% of his skill tree (if not more)

4) I understand that there are some people that for whatever reason (or no reason at all, fun doesnt require reason after all) actually enjoy this mini-game labyrinth provides. Labyrinth exclusive uniques, strong enhanchments and treasure chests at the end of the labyrinth. Cool keep all of them and the enjoyment of playing Mario with PoE skills and graphics. The AC points why do they have to be linked to that ?

5) If AC points were locked/gated behind Atziri or Rigwald how do you think the community would respond? How you white knights would respond? I for once would hold the same stance im holding now. Because something so vital to the gameplay cannot and SHOULD NOT be gated behind anything. I understand GGG wants to put the spotlight in their newest addition to the game, but they have to realise that this is one HUGE-ASS mistake. Give labyrinth runners alt art items, or mortal hopes or 30cm increase on their e-penis i dont care but dont deny the rest of us the chance to have fun with something that is clearly one of the biggest (probably the biggest) changes in PoE, obviously im talking about AC.

6) For those here long enough, let me remind you something that is much less iconic than the skill tree and even when that was gated people rioted. Do you remember when two of the most iconic uniques in PoE were gated to drop only in maps? Im talking about Kaom's Heart and Shavvrone's Wrappings. The outrage for those iconic uniques that had grown famous and legendary beyond anything else back at the day was so great that GGG shortly after their huge mistake, undid it and everyone was happy again. And we are talking about 2 unique items here! You understand how big of a change gating THE SKILL TREE is ? I dont think you do. Because if you did you would agree on removing AC points from labyrinth this instant.