General Discussion - Ascendacy Classes looks like a step backwards - Forum

" CaptainWARLORD wrote: " Shagsbeard wrote: The characters weren't distinctive before. Now they will be. Big. Fucking. Deal. I disagree. Thanks. I'll take that as a complement.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Feb 15, 2016, 9:42:37 AM Quote this Post
" Boem wrote: " Vias_Myton wrote: Im pretty sure someone already expressed my worries, but well, this is what Im worried about: nerfs to utility and secondary abilities We already know ele resist flask are going to be nerfed, because it will be easier to pick up max resists for some specialisations. Those who wont pick these ascendancy classes will take a hit. Especially considering that they are very likely to increase monster damage. And Im pretty sure those max resist nodes wont be on the regular tree for anyone to take. I hope there wont be too much of "because that specialisation would be too OP, this has to be nerfed for everyone else". .... No clue where you got the "it will be easier for ascendancy classes to pick up +max resistance" from though...- He's getting that from his interpretation of the dev manifesto statement: " . (It's getting easier to dramatically increase maximum resistances, so this change is designed to partially counteract the new tools such as the Flask Effect mod and new Ascendancy options.) But for some reason pretends the last part of the statement (flask effect mods) isn't part of the equation. Guild Leader The Amazon Basin <BASIN> Play Nice and Show Some Class www.theamazonbasin.com Last edited by mark1030#3643 on Feb 15, 2016, 10:22:28 AM	Posted by mark1030#3643 on Feb 15, 2016, 10:21:49 AM Quote this Post
I dont see any any key!	Posted by k1rage#5701 on Feb 15, 2016, 10:42:36 AM Quote this Post
Ascendancy classes will only kill diversity if they nerf a lot the tree. For example, if they remove the "shock" nodes on the top of the tree and only the elementalist witch will have the option to shock without criting. PS: By the way, this is my major worry right now, as I want to do an Occultist witch (CI-Cold Snap) that can shock to trigger HoT.	Posted by Visca#7546 on Feb 16, 2016, 6:39:56 AM Quote this Post
" CaptainWARLORD wrote: " Shagsbeard wrote: The characters weren't distinctive before. Now they will be. Big. Fucking. Deal. I disagree. The position in the tree in combination with adjacent nodes is what defines characters. The advantages you get with a certain class over the other if you want to go a specific route was already clear enough. I personally like the changes for Duelist (as this will buff my own build), but I can mostly agree with the worries of most posters who are against Ascendancy in some parts. Except for when you can reach other character's starting nodes. Which is almost always. There are multiple builds that can be done by 3 classes, and all the difference is how you level up, and starting stats (which aren't important at all). Ascendancy effectively splits those builds into separate ones (with differences that matter). Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance. Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.	Posted by Perq#4049 on Feb 16, 2016, 8:27:12 AM Quote this Post
It's obvious to everyone that you just want to argue a point for the sake of argument. Picking on the meaning of "different" as some absolute is (at best) childish.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Feb 16, 2016, 9:28:37 AM Quote this Post
Anyone arguing against the essence of CaptainWarlord's point is being silly. Path of Exile only offers "unlimited builds" if you don't give a fuck about possibly bricking your character halfway through to the endgame. http://exiletools.com/blog/2016/02/03/report-skilltree-analysis-for-the-top-path-of-exile-players-in-talisman/	Posted by brgillespie#1948 on Feb 16, 2016, 9:28:39 AM Quote this Post
" crystalwitch wrote: When Ascendancy comes out, I'm making a tornado shot necromancer witch just to spite you. shush!!! dont spoil my secret Null's inclination build back on topic yeah Ascendancy is a step backward for build diversity within a given class but in general i think it will create more builds ZiggyD is the Labyrinth of streamers, some like it, some dont, but GGG will make sure to push it down ur throat to make you like it Last edited by Sexcalibure#7575 on Feb 16, 2016, 10:08:05 AM	Posted by Sexcalibure#7575 on Feb 16, 2016, 9:56:06 AM On Probation Quote this Post
" CaptainWARLORD wrote: " brgillespie wrote: Anyone arguing against the essence of CaptainWarlord's point is being silly. Path of Exile only offers "unlimited builds" if you don't give a fuck about possibly bricking your character halfway through to the endgame. If you want to argue that way, then show me proof. Yeah. Show me a dagger-based crit build with Marauder that evolves around ES. Go on. You act like it's impossible to do. Sure, you'll have around 30 points inefficiently allocated but you could still pull it off. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.	Posted by Xavderion#3432 on Feb 16, 2016, 10:06:52 AM Quote this Post
" CaptainWARLORD wrote: This whole discussion again is pointless Recruiting for Archnemesis League/Siege of the Atlas! Umbra Exiles: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3244875 The Official Path of Exile Guild Directory: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1192567	Posted by StDrakeX#2331 on Feb 16, 2016, 10:48:07 AM Quote this Post