Sneaky Trade Scam Attempt

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LazarusQ wrote:
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grant_m wrote:
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LazarusQ wrote:

Surely you are aware that this is not role-playing, it is online gaming. And the Shadow would never stoop that low, he'd go straight for the jugular.


Surely you're aware this is an online ARPG. Action ROLE PLAYING GAME.

So we are playing on words, then. Ok. It's an ACTION role playing game. Why are you trading instead of killing stuff?


Who says I'm trading?
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mark1030 wrote:
Character is character. Video game or real life makes no difference on your character. If all's fair in a video game, why do people get muted and banned for saying things in chat? Stop blaming the victim for somebody being dishonest. And try to be a decent human being. If you believe in a god, do you think he has an exemption for people who were assholes as long as it was in a video game?



oh sorry I must be as bad than nazis xDDDD

Sorry I don't feel bad, I never bought something the original price and never will.
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grant_m wrote:

Who says I'm trading?

Eh, not point in arguing.

Anybody wanna try to give some real arguments in favour of the scammer, rather than cheap rhetorics?
Save a Carrot, Eat a Rabbit!
< not affacted by this shit
< no shop, no trade, no problems

this community was taught by ggg to be exiles... be sneaky, hostile, use every advantage, don't post your discoveries, deal with people you would never deal with in rl, and ofc -> alwas protect the scam/scammer (no name n shame bla) ... if you want to participate in this gomorrah do it on your own risk and without being surprised you got fu**ed by an exile occasionally.
Have a problem with something I said? PM goetzjam don't derail a thread.
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kcstar wrote:
< not affacted by this shit
< no shop, no trade, no problems

this community was taught by ggg to be exiles... be sneaky, hostile, use every advantage, don't post your discoveries, deal with people you would never deal with in rl, and ofc -> alwas protect the scam/scammer (no name n shame bla) ... if you want to participate in this gomorrah do it on your own risk and without being surprised you got fu**ed by an exile occasionally.



That's the spirit you deserve a cookie xD
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LazarusQ wrote:
Anybody wanna try to give some real arguments in favour of the scammer, rather than cheap rhetorics?


I offered a possible explanation, but the consensus of the responses was dismissive of that scenario.

My impression is that you have made up your mind and that nothing and nobody will sway you, so the back and forth is futile. Only the person knows what their intention was, and they can't be named or asked, and they probably won't post in the thread.

It only highlights that PoE would benefit from a different trading system, but this is the kind of situation that can only be remedied by an automated buyout system, and that was categorically ruled out. GGG can't be expected to police this, so it remains up to each player to keep track of their prices.
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Mivo wrote:
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LazarusQ wrote:
Anybody wanna try to give some real arguments in favour of the scammer, rather than cheap rhetorics?


I offered a possible explanation, but the consensus of the responses was dismissive of that scenario.

My impression is that you have made up your mind and that nothing and nobody will sway you, so the back and forth is futile. Only the person knows what their intention was, and they can't be named or asked, and they probably won't post in the thread.

It only highlights that PoE would benefit from a different trading system, but this is the kind of situation that can only be remedied by an automated buyout system, and that was categorically ruled out. GGG can't be expected to police this, so it remains up to each player to keep track of their prices.

I am sorry you felt dismissed. I don't believe that you were. But the point is not to decide whether the accused is guilty or not. That is indeed impossible and quite useless.

The fact is that the scamming method presented in the OP is a possibility, which is very probably used by a few people (at the very least one, by his own admission in this thread). The more people are aware of that possibility, the better.

And then the discussion deviated towards whether it is right or wrong to lie in the virtual world of Wreaclast. I absolutely agree that a different trading system would make things better. The disease cannot be cured, but it can be treated.
Save a Carrot, Eat a Rabbit!
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LOLOLOL fail logic.
If a cashier charged the wrong amount of money for an item, took the money and let the guy leave, the person in trouble is the cashier, not the guy who got the bargain. The cashier's job is to prevent this from happening, if the cashier fails, its on the cashier 100%. But yah, im sure we have undercover cops at all convenience store monitoring camera feeds in real time to catch evil people like that.

hahahahahaha
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Where I come from, that is still considered theft. The cashier is not held legally accountable unless he was an accomplice and let it happen on purpose.



Gah

I forgot we live in a society with no accountability at all. The future is grim.

Reminds me of the dumbass in my guild 2 days ago who got "scammed" because some guy offered him 60c for an item that was really worth 5-10ex but he sold it without checking poe.trade and only found out after when he received another much bigger offer...but the problem was of course not him but the "scammer"

Remember kids....we are all victims and we have no control on our lives. Our failures are not failures but the failures of others...we just have to figure out who and point fingers.
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Kezz123 wrote:

Gah

I forgot we live in a society with no accountability at all. The future is grim.

Reminds me of the dumbass in my guild 2 days ago who got "scammed" because some guy offered him 60c for an item that was really worth 5-10ex but he sold it without checking poe.trade and only found out after when he received another much bigger offer...but the problem was of course not him but the "scammer"

Remember kids....we are all victims and we have no control on our lives. Our failures are not failures but the failures of others...we just have to figure out who and point fingers.


it's your guildie's fault for not checking
You know you are getting old when you read threads like these.

People in "my time" learned to be accountable and responsible. So what I do is this...and I expect nobody here to follow suit...

When I receive an offer, I actually search the item and ensure the price is still valid. What if the price went up due to demand increasing? what if the price im given by the buyer is incorrect.

Id rather not blame others for things that I have 100% the power to prevent. I also dont believe in asking the Devs to waste their time trying to protect me from....myself.

So I do what adults in my time did...I spend extra time where i feel there is value doing so in order to prevent regrets.

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