Endgame Gear Impossible to Get or Just an Illusion?
" Vanilla D3 had the same phenomenon be4 it got too much catered to casuals (when AH was still a big deal). Actually every long term enjoyable game I played had this phenomenon and this is what kept me playing the game. BIS/close to BIS items should be usually much lower in supply than there is demand cuz I mean they are BIS and not supposed to be easy obtainable. The example of your TS: that 30k DPS are fine for the time you invested. There are poeple having played this game for years now and that dedicate even comeplete characters to just collect the currency needed for BIS items on their main (aka play MF first weeks of a league). Imho lower prices would actually not benefit the game on the long run but rather kill the reason to keep grinding actually. For example I have had quite some characters to 90ies/late 80ies and I can tell you as soon as you are able to basically just equip a character with "the good gear" (Mjölnir+ Romiras+Voll's Decotion+ Kingsguard+ the other stuff to make the build rly strong) grinding becomes rly boring. I mean there is no more real progress to keep playing for. With all BIS you will have reached the end of the game somehow and killing that 3 or 4 ridiculously strong bosses is not something that chalenging anymore. Last edited by boesersven#5678 on Sep 22, 2015, 8:32:40 AM
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" I don't mind the mirroring. The problem is there is no risk involve in mirroring that is why you can create unlimited copy of the item. I would rather have a probability of mirror corrupting the items added so that the amount of copy would be restricted. " Diablo 2 has unique. Unique with high rolled stats fixed the problem with RNG, it doesn't need those mirrors. The difference between the two games is that during the turning point GGG doesn't want their unique to be BIS. They create their unique with certain unfavorable effects. Unique in POE is less desirable, unless the unique either has little or no unfavorable effect or your build can circumvent its effects. Rare items ended up being BIS instead Unique , which is harder to roll for. Last edited by deathflower#0444 on Sep 22, 2015, 10:02:30 AM
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" You wont be doing any endgame with those items. WTF?? And since you say you are a trader, that is really really horrible to have gotten in the temp league. Are you sure you are doing it right? Last edited by Zhatan#4250 on Sep 22, 2015, 10:19:02 AM
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" ^^ something I noticed myself here and in other rpgs like ESO to name a very good and recent one ... as soon as u have 'finished' ur build ... its finished, done, nothing left to do, and u start to think about differnt approaches and strategys for ur next build, or u just stop with it at all so basicly, if there is nothing left to 'wrap ur mind around', no problem to be solved, no idea or theory to be tested or to be proofen left anymore ... how do u call that ? perfection maybe ... or death ? maybe end gear is an illusion, but if u choose to 'go on the quest' of finding out, it becomes ur reality, for that matter. on the other hand u can exactly determine why u r playing the game now. to get the endgame gear eventually, because now, u havnt any of it. Wich also provides an image of urself u can use to describe ... urself. An imaginative line appears, marking the distance between ur current self (the one without good gear) and ur envisioned self (in possesion of good gear). but what will happen if u reach that goal of urs, when u reach the end of ur imaginative Line? are u fullfilled then, perfect again ... or simply dead already? maybe it wasnt about reaching that goal at all in the end ... becasue there is nothing waiting for you or happening to you when u have reached it ... something will just has come to an end, leaving u empty, and thats all. well at least u will have ur 'good gear' now in opposition to before, so its fair to call it a progress, a development, an advancment ... a transmission ... from the one u were, to the one u had imagined urself ... maybe u got ur gear or maybe u just realised, u cant ... but in any case, u are no longer simply the person u were before, something forced u to move away from the point of the beginning and made u look for something you had envisioned to be there all by urself ... (ur finished end-game-gear build) its like the big-carrot-of-fate-on-a-stick, its ur ego, only given to you, to produce illusion after illusion, about urself, ur surroundings and the world ... to get u active, to make u producing imaginative Line after Line, over and over again ... forming that Grid in the end wich defines the boudaries of our reality as a whole ... wich is a rather satisfying and save but ultimatly pointless and hollow structure, untill u realise that a Line wich is unremettingly spinning around its center point ... becomes a circle ... geometrically  --------------------------------------------------------------- Gentlebros, thx for ur interest and have a great day all together ^^ What is the Matrix? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XDNGBTsi5U
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No way......... this game tahts why its so unique and got this mature player base, cuz itdifferent from others... you have the chance to perfect your gear , your style of gameplay. you actualy dont have limits. you can allways craft and try your luck for a better item. else if u put items like ëndgame"stuffs in here, some hard core players or lucky ones would get it to fast , then band no more reason to play, you start to play less and less and to quit, like in other games.
So GGG is doing it perfectly! |
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" Yeah, thats why the forum is fuuuuuull of complaints ;D |
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" you can though, see this is what I mean about warping perceptions. A lioneyes glare and the chest both 6 linked? You can demolish maps with those items, you dont even need a crazy crit harbinger, you could run lvl81 shrines all day with the 2 lioneyes pieces, never die, easy mode virtually everything. On another note, actually I agree with people saying keep mirrors and just have a limit, like 10 copies of any given item before it becomes locked for further mirroring, I think that would make for a far more interesting item game, possibly more interesting than just removing mirrors, it woulf fuel the need for constant crafting and non-perfect mirroring. Everyone with the perfect items would obviously know from the moment it was put in place that they need to return their investment on the fees from the next 10 copies and set prices accordingly, no one would get screwed. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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" You wrong though. He wont be finishing ANY endgame with just a lioneyes and a semi decent 6L chest. Some shrine maps is not endgame though. If your perception is that finishing an easy rolled 81 map is endgame, then yes, thats a warped perception. Core and Uber is pretty much the endgame in this game. |
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" Sure you can. I made it to lvl 98 in warbands with a Lioneye's bow and cleared almost all content (didn't try lvl 82 bosses or über atziri). Easy. Clear speed was good. You don't need a 350+ pdps harbinger. Last edited by Frankenberry#0590 on Sep 22, 2015, 1:45:38 PM
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I agree that once you have the best items the game may get boring faster (yet everyone trades to get these items faster go figure)
But i see my char as done and i don't have the best items i could have and i don't really need them Would i like to have them? sure Will they ever drop? 99% sure they wont since my char has been done for a loong time and i still don't have them when i did play a lot So not having them is as bad as having them really i mean i would still play my char cause i do now even when i see it as done And i have not really made any progress in a long time the last item that i got that i used wasn't really better then what i had it was just moving items around mostly and i think i lost stuff to gain stuff so in the end it wasn't really a upgrade Last edited by Lynerus#6363 on Sep 22, 2015, 1:58:44 PM
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