Endgame Gear Impossible to Get or Just an Illusion?
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Frankenberry wrote:
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Zhatan wrote:
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Perq wrote:
Working a regular job, 8h a day. Playing quite a lot when league is on. I managed to get these (only note worthy - not linking rares that are good - you can check them yourself, if you want):
Sure, not OP and mirror worthy, but enough to get you going in the end-game.
How? Simple (in theory) - knowing what to pick up and might sell, use poe.trade and Acquisition to sell your stuff. This is really big part of it, because you must know what kind of affix combinations (and tiers) are good on rare items. Also, knowing a good base, what items are worth linking, socketing, etc.
Use the "Online tab", don't overprice your stuff (going lower is always better, than sitting on your stuff forever).
Without any trading involved, getting your end-game stuff, playing 4-5 a day is pretty much impossible.
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Also, I'll note that I played nowhere near "optimal" or FOTM builds - all of the builds I played this league were made by my, and are far from being "great" - just ok to what I wanted them to do. :P
You wont be doing any endgame with those items. WTF??
And since you say you are a trader, that is really really horrible to have gotten in the temp league. Are you sure you are doing it right?
Sure you can. I made it to lvl 98 in warbands with a Lioneye's bow and cleared almost all content (didn't try lvl 82 bosses or über atziri). Easy. Clear speed was good. You don't need a 350+ pdps harbinger.
You are just stating that you havent done endgame with it, so whats your point?
As for BoS items: those are in a great shape in PoE! They are really famous and often come with a background story about how they were crafted or for how much they changed hands. In PoE they are truly legendary. I have not seen this in any other game. Maybe you mistake the BoS item itself with its copies? Anyone using mirrored items (except for those without sockets) knows how painful each major patch is. Mirroring gets you a BoS for a limited duration. This seems fine to me.
to clarify: "BoS tier" means the select-few BoS items themselves + all of their mirrored copies.
and I really don't see that as being in great shape. I see it as being the opposite of what I think BoS is, and - as stated earlier - a top RMT fuel in the game.
which is why I think it should not be "a tier" at all.
you get all the things you love about BoS - the background stories, owner names etc' - but Mirroring them just ruins it because in essence, you're not the only one with this legendary item.
also, I don't know how the "top 1%" trade works but I feel that if your #1 dagger suddenly became #2 because of a patch or someone crafting something better - you'll actually have to sell that dagger to fund trying to craft the next #1 BoS with your name on it.
this, is how BoS items worked in those 1/2 MMOs I played.
this, is how top-tier orbs get sinked instead of getting into the filthy hands of RMT.
and this, is how the "super-rich" would actually balance each other and the entire Economy as a whole, instead of becoming morbidly obese with Exalts and having literally the "wealth" of an entire league distilled down to a single person.
"Mirror Service" has to go.
I don't mind the mirroring. The problem is there is no risk involve in mirroring that is why you can create unlimited copy of the item. I would rather have a probability of mirror corrupting the items added so that the amount of copy would be restricted.
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1235 wrote:
diablo2 had much worse drop rates and no mirrors (how many perfect item have dropped so far? zero? that's right if this was diablo2 there wouldn't even be one full tier 1 mod item compared to the thousands that poe has) and it was pretty much the most popular game of it's kind
i don't know what you understand by "end game" but you can farm 30 exalts, full mirrored items not so much
you don't need mirrored items to do 80-81 maps or uber atziri
STOP WHINIIIINNG
Diablo 2 has unique. Unique with high rolled stats fixed the problem with RNG, it doesn't need those mirrors. The difference between the two games is that during the turning point GGG doesn't want their unique to be BIS. They create their unique with certain unfavorable effects. Unique in POE is less desirable, unless the unique either has little or no unfavorable effect or your build can circumvent its effects. Rare items ended up being BIS instead Unique , which is harder to roll for.
lol @ unique items solving the RNG "problem", in d2 you got uniques the same way you got rares, there was no crafting, uniques and rares came the same way and the good uniques were extremely rare, gg logic
and the gg logic is even more gg because crafting actually helps you and makes the game 100 times easier, if the only rare items were the ones dropped by monsters everyone would have muuuuch worse items and a near perfect rare weapon wouldn't cost 300 Exalts it would cost 5000$
oh and not to mention the small detailt that POE, this might come as a shock brace yourself, has unique items too, and mjolnir+voll's allows you to kill any boss via clicking on him and holding down the button
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lol @ unique items solving the RNG "problem", in d2 you got uniques the same way you got rares, there was no crafting, uniques and rares came the same way and the good uniques were extremely rare, gg logic
and the gg logic is even more gg because crafting actually helps you and makes the game 100 times easier, if the only rare items were the ones dropped by monsters everyone would have muuuuch worse items and a near perfect rare weapon wouldn't cost 300 Exalts it would cost 5000$
oh and not to mention the small detailt that POE, this might come as a shock brace yourself, has unique items too, and mjolnir+voll's allows you to kill any boss via clicking on him and holding down the button
Roll in upper numerical bracket in determined stat fix RNG problems, that is what D2 unique is and also what crafting is about. Crafting is something GGG introduced to the game to fix their RNG problems when people keep complaining about it...
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Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy.
You wrong though. He wont be finishing ANY endgame with just a lioneyes and a semi decent 6L chest. Some shrine maps is not endgame though. If your perception is that finishing an easy rolled 81 map is endgame, then yes, thats a warped perception.
Core and Uber is pretty much the endgame in this game.
lvl81 shrine maps are not endgame.... endgame maps that are 2 tiers higher than any endgame maps we had before 2.0 are not endgame content, maps you can level to 100 in, those are not endgame?
k bro.
I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
You wrong though. He wont be finishing ANY endgame with just a lioneyes and a semi decent 6L chest. Some shrine maps is not endgame though. If your perception is that finishing an easy rolled 81 map is endgame, then yes, thats a warped perception.
Core and Uber is pretty much the endgame in this game.
Not really no:P
Anybody can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right person and to the right degree and at the right time and for the right purpose, and in the right way - that is not within everybody's power and is not easy.
You wrong though. He wont be finishing ANY endgame with just a lioneyes and a semi decent 6L chest. Some shrine maps is not endgame though. If your perception is that finishing an easy rolled 81 map is endgame, then yes, thats a warped perception.
Core and Uber is pretty much the endgame in this game.
lvl81 shrine maps are not endgame.... endgame maps that are 2 tiers higher than any endgame maps we had before 2.0 are not endgame content, maps you can level to 100 in, those are not endgame?
k bro.
There is a level 82 in the game but level 81 is the endgame? Do I understand you right?
81<82.
You can level to 100 in any map btw, that doesnt make them endgame.
Ûber Atziri done with fairly inexpensive gear. This is just one build. I am sure you can find more out there if you bother :)
Yeah, but thats not a build with a lioneye's and a random 6L chest. The gear linked earlier is not endgame gear.
A 6L coil with rathpith and a +max res SoL isnt "inexpensive" aswell. Thats like what, 25 ex worth of gear? However, thats not impossible to get or anything. There are also cheaper builds that can handle endgame.
