4 offcolor sockets on gloves? IMPOSSIBLE

I would say the same to them yes.
The thing is, you KNOW beforehand how the system works. It's a lottery, you know the odds, you know how much it will cost you on average, you also know it can cost you a LOT more (or a lot less). There's nothing hidden here.
Yet, you engaged yourself in the process and complain when you're not lucky. It doesn't really make sense. Do you like to be hurt ?

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Diphal wrote:

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Seelenverheizer wrote:

4 offcolor on gloves is easy. The lower the stat requirement of a item, the less the sockets are aligneted with that color.

Just use the Vorice Calculator:

Those (not too good gloves) have 97 int

-> Best way to get RRRR is to use the 2R craft.

Avarage Cost: 1960 chromes with a pretty small standart deviation of 60.

If you really need 4 offcolour items always do it on gloves.

Getting 4 off on a top tier helmet would prefer 3R craft and would cost 3300 chromes on avarage.


In the end just use the dammed Vorici calculator.

What an advise... you absolutely missed the point of the topic. I know about Vorici calculator and I knew what was estimated price to get 4 rrrr on mentioned gloves.

Problem is that at this point I payed double of that amount and still don't have what I want.

I have to say it not the first time like this. It happens to me every single time I want to roll something more difficult. I always tend to pay more than average to get desirable result and I'm tired of it.

Then some [Removed by Support] come and tell me Im not supposed to use such skill combination. LOL. Just give me option to pay 2,5k chromes to get 4 offcolors and be done with it.

I wonder if you people said the same before Vorici and his granted 6L was introduced. Were u saying same shit to people which were complaining they payed 5k fusings and still dont have 6L while someone got 6L with couple of tries? Get lost my god.

Do you know what (pseudo) random number generator is?

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Diphal wrote:

Problem is that at this point I payed double of that amount and still don't have what I want.

Look up 'RNG' on wiki...

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Diphal wrote:

Just give me option to pay 2,5k chromes to get 4 offcolors and be done with it.

Given how Vorici was priced for 6S or 6L'ing, the price would have to be in the area of 10k chroms for 4R'ing the item you're trying to do.
They took the average number of fusings to 6S/L, and then multiplied by a number just under 2. The average number for your item is 5230, meaning 10k would be reasonable, maybe 9k if they felt generous.

My guess is you're trying to give a caster an awesome Phys reduction CWDT combination. Casters are not supposed to get that easily...

Besides, if you picked a STR/INT pair of gloves, you would probably be able to 4R it in less than 25 chroms. Problem solved!

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Cyzax wrote:

My guess is you're trying to give a caster an awesome Phys reduction CWDT combination. Casters are not supposed to get that easily...

Ok, I will say it one more time. I need rrrr for Increased Duration, Fire Penetration, Life Leech and Vaal Molten Shell.

And like I said before, my suggestion is to make some supports white. I don't see reason why gems like increased crit, increased duration etc should be related to certain attribute. Perhaps even leech.

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Diphal wrote:

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Cyzax wrote:

My guess is you're trying to give a caster an awesome Phys reduction CWDT combination. Casters are not supposed to get that easily...

Ok, I will say it one more time. I need rrrr for Increased Duration, Fire Penetration, Life Leech and Vaal Molten Shell.

And like I said before, my suggestion is to make some supports white. I don't see reason why gems like increased crit, increased duration etc should be related to certain attribute. Perhaps even leech.

Reason is to create sense of game class, to lay down roles which your character can play. So that when you look on spell caster you can see his strengths and weaknesses - that is RPG, role playing game. Mighty warrior, cunning thief and clever magician. You want to play them all at once. That's not what RPG is about.

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Diphal wrote:

Ok, I will say it one more time. I need rrrr for Increased Duration, Fire Penetration, Life Leech and Vaal Molten Shell.

Ok, didn't see that one...

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Diphal wrote:

And like I said before, my suggestion is to make some supports white. I don't see reason why gems like increased crit, increased duration etc should be related to certain attribute. Perhaps even leech.

The problem with that solution is that you'd effectively remove stats requirements (unless you want GGG to implement an 'either stat at X' option), and of.c. upset the current balance between the different classes. There's some validity to the argument that the classes should be different, not just in the skill tree, but what they could do...

And besides, why didn't you just go for a STR/INT pair of gloves?
The gloves you had were mediocre at best so finding a STR/INT replacement shouldn't be hard...

This is not a 'problem', but a deliberate game limitation you don't want to work your way around...

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Cyzax wrote:

And besides, why didn't you just go for a STR/INT pair of gloves?
The gloves you had were mediocre at best so finding a STR/INT replacement shouldn't be hard...

This is not a 'problem', but a deliberate game limitation you don't want to work your way around...

Because as CI based build 100ES is 500 in my ES pool. That IS a lot. Lets say I would get 200 armor... it is nothing.

Besides, you are all like: "these gloves are crap, why don't u buy something different". Do me a favor and find me similar gloves with dex, lightning and cold resists (both around 30). Yes you might find some ar/es gloves with lower resists and maybe no dex but that's not a solution. Everything else is more expensive. With AR/ES gloves I would lose up to 500 ES, I would be under cap with ele weakness and I would have to invest into +30dex passive or change something else in my gear.

I don't have mirror worth currency to swap gear freely as needed. If I would have I wouldnt be complaining about 13 ex spent on chroming one piece of gear.

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Diphal wrote:

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Cyzax wrote:

And besides, why didn't you just go for a STR/INT pair of gloves?
The gloves you had were mediocre at best so finding a STR/INT replacement shouldn't be hard...

This is not a 'problem', but a deliberate game limitation you don't want to work your way around...

Because as CI based build, 100ES is worth 500 in my ES pool. Thats a lot. While lets say 200 armour I would get from such gloves is nothing.

Besides, you are all like these gloves a crap... Why don't u buy something different. Do me a favor and find me similar gloves with dex, lightning and cold resists (both around 30). Yes you might find some ar/es gloves with lower resists and maybe no dex but thats not a solution. I would lose 500 ES, I would be under cap with ele weakness and I would have to invest into +30dex passive or change something else in my gear.

This is last piece of gear I need to tweak, changing whole gear because of rrrr in 4l is way backwards.

I don't have mirror worth currency to swap gear freely as needed.

So you'd have to compromise, but didn't want to pay for it as you felt 'entitled' to have a perfect build... the game should adapt to your rules, not the other way around...

I don't get all my builds optimal either (far from it), but I don't cry over it... There is always something that needs to be compromised on, and... that is how it should be!

Also, as previously shown, you had not yet (by far) reached the expenditure for this that the Vorici bench would have provided if it's pricing were set comparable to 6S/L'ing.

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Cyzax wrote:

So you'd have to compromise, but didn't want to pay for it as you felt 'entitled' to have a perfect build... the game should adapt to your rules, not the other way around...

I don't get all my builds optimal either (far from it), but I don't cry over it... There is always something that needs to be compromised on, and... that is how it should be!

Also, as previously shown, you had not yet (by far) reached the expenditure for this that the Vorici bench would have provided if it's pricing were set comparable to 6S/L'ing.

First of all, CI build is hardly perfect build. Even without sacrifices. Your post makes no sense... at all.

Secondly, you are not competent person to decide cost of 4 offlinks, let alone compare it to price of 6L.

Thirdly - I'm not complaining about price. I'm complaining about fact that someone made 4 offcolors on similar item with basically no effort (for example friend of mine) while some ppl have to invest multiple ex (note that his whole gear is worth that much) and still don't have desirable result. I don't care that on average we both made 4 offcolors for acceptable price because I didn't... and he made no effort to do it. When I eat whole loaf of bread and there will be nothing left for you, on average we both ate half, right? I bet you wouldn't feel that way. It simply IS unfair. If you can't deal with this fact, just do me favor and at least don't argue about it.

Just that it works in game certain way doesn't mean it is right. If it would be like that, there would be no need for changes and patches. Game would remain in its vanilla state.

Most funny thing about such things is that when something is changed according to suggestions made by players, then people like you are usually most cheering for it. While few days ago they were willing to refuse such suggestions with useless comments saying "no need for it, I'm fine".

RNG is RNG. Also,