4 offcolor sockets on gloves? IMPOSSIBLE

Outside of the fact offcoloring anything is pretty terrible why would you even try to 4 color those gloves for 14ex.

Like I'm not even sure what cwdt links you even need that badly that requires the 4th red socket.
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Diphal wrote:
Secondly, you are not competent person to decide cost of 4 offlinks, let alone compare it to price of 6L.


No, that was decided by the people who made this game. They set the rules, we adapt to them.

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Diphal wrote:
Thirdly - I'm not complaining about price. I'm complaining about fact that someone made 4 offcolors on similar item with basically no effort (for example friend of mine) while some ppl have to invest multiple ex (note that his whole gear is worth that much) and still don't have desirable result. I don't care that on average we both made 4 offcolors for acceptable price because I didn't... and he made no effort to do it. When I eat whole loaf of bread and there will be nothing left for you, on average we both ate half, right? I bet you wouldn't feel that way. It simply IS unfair. If you can't deal with this fact, just do me favor and at least don't argue about it.


Of course it is unfair. It is also unfair that two days ago someone turned in a set of Emperor's Luck and got 5 Mirrors. I only got 5 Orbs of Transmutation. I am happy for that person. He / she had a good day I assume.

RNG is fundamentally unfair, it has always been. I assume you probably had your good RNG at some point as well. Now you have bad luck. It happens.



Torment Palm Soldier Gloves
Level: 57 Strength: 40 Intelligence: 40

112% increased Armour and Energy Shield
+37 to maximum Energy Shield
10% increased Rarity of Items found
+31% to Cold Resistance

They have 141 Shield, so you would lose 56 shield, which would translate to maybe 300 shield according to what you said. Not ideal.

They cost 1 exalt, you could mastercraft them to probably add lightning resistance and dexterity (not sure if that rarity is a prefix or a suffix).

Looking at the rest of your gear, it costs probably about 100 exalt or so. You should be able to afford some nice items I assume. So either you are flexible in how you gear your character, or you just keep going with those gloves... eventually you will get those 4R sockets.
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Diphal wrote:
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Cyzax wrote:
And besides, why didn't you just go for a STR/INT pair of gloves?
The gloves you had were mediocre at best so finding a STR/INT replacement shouldn't be hard...

This is not a 'problem', but a deliberate game limitation you don't want to work your way around...

Because as CI based build 100ES is 500 in my ES pool. That IS a lot. Lets say I would get 200 armor... it is nothing.

Besides, you are all like: "these gloves are crap, why don't u buy something different". Do me a favor and find me similar gloves with dex, lightning and cold resists (both around 30). Yes you might find some ar/es gloves with lower resists and maybe no dex but that's not a solution. Everything else is more expensive. With AR/ES gloves I would lose up to 500 ES, I would be under cap with ele weakness and I would have to invest into +30dex passive or change something else in my gear.

I don't have mirror worth currency to swap gear freely as needed. If I would have I wouldnt be complaining about 13 ex spent on chroming one piece of gear.


100 es on gloves? Helmet is up to 500 es, chest 900 es, shield 700? es. What you have? 650 es chest, 100 es helmet, PoH and Doryani's belt. Sure, with all those uniques 100es hurts. You should invest your currency elsewhere.
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titiAlf wrote:
100 es on gloves? Helmet is up to 500 es, chest 900 es, shield 700? es. What you have? 650 es chest, 100 es helmet, PoH and Doryani's belt. Sure, with all those uniques 100es hurts. You should invest your currency elsewhere.

Riiiight, I don't know if you are trying to be funny or what. Just read your solution.

Here I am, complaining about 13ex, right now it is 17 (still don't have what I want) and you suggestion is to buy chest with 900ES so I could buy hybrid ar/es gloves :D

If I could afford 900ES 6L chest with at least some resists, I wouldn't start complaining about wasted 17ex on 4off color gloves right? I wouldn't start at like 30 wasted EX... even with shittiest luck possible I would have needed result by that time.

Anyway, there is no point in arguing about mirror worthy items. Only 0.x% of population can afford them, game is not balanced around them and never will be.
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Diphal wrote:
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titiAlf wrote:
100 es on gloves? Helmet is up to 500 es, chest 900 es, shield 700? es. What you have? 650 es chest, 100 es helmet, PoH and Doryani's belt. Sure, with all those uniques 100es hurts. You should invest your currency elsewhere.

Riiiight, I don't know if you are trying to be funny or what. Just read your solution.

Here I am, complaining about 13ex, right now it is 17 (still don't have what I want) and you suggestion is to buy chest with 900ES so I could buy hybrid ar/es gloves :D

If I could afford 900ES 6L chest with at least some resists, I wouldn't start complaining about wasted 17ex on 4off color gloves right? I wouldn't start at like 30 wasted EX... even with shittiest luck possible I would have needed result by that time.

Anyway, there is no point in arguing about mirror worthy items. Only 0.x% of population can afford them, game is not balanced around them and never will be.


You'd probably be able to afford a 6L 900ES chest if you saved for that rather than blowing your ex on a fool's errand. Fairness is a construct - there is no actual law of fairness - so, when you start buying lottery tickets to 4R some ES gloves, you buy into the concept of rolling the dice with the odds stacked heavily against you. If you got it in 1 chrome, great, if you got it in 10,000 chromes, great. It is meant to be expensive to maintain some character definition and keep some balance to gearing. To paraphrase your earlier statement, there is no point in arguing about fully off-coloured items. Only 0.x% of population can afford them, game is not balanced around them and never will be.'.

That is RNG. PoE is all about RNG. If you want progress bars to fill up, perhaps an MMO would be better suited to your tastes. I agree with the other suggestions that you would be better off with a pair of AR/ES gloves to 4R, or that you pick up your extra resists/stats you need on another gear slot and buy more compatible gloves for your socketing requirements.
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Who is talking about mirrors? Just pointing out how much you've lost on good rare helmet and shield with not so great chest. Trying to save it with gloves won't help you. Instead of acknowledging that your build is expensive because you can't get enough ES, you accuse game design.
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titiAlf wrote:
Who is talking about mirrors? Just pointing out how much you've lost on good rare helmet and shield with not so great chest. Trying to save it with gloves won't help you. Instead of acknowledging that your build is expensive because you can't get enough ES, you accuse game design.


Well this is a guy spending +10 exalts on gloves just to have a 4 link vaal molten shell with increase duration, life leech and increase duration.

Because that is seriously worth +10 exalts to off color something as oppose to just upgrading your gear somewhere else.
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titiAlf wrote:
Who is talking about mirrors? Just pointing out how much you've lost on good rare helmet and shield with not so great chest. Trying to save it with gloves won't help you. Instead of acknowledging that your build is expensive because you can't get enough ES, you accuse game design.

Man, Im not using that Scold's Bridle helmet just for fun. It is build enabling unique directly related to that rrrr sockets in gloves. Im not going to explain further. Point is that I have only 4 free slots to combine ES and resists (gloves, boots, chest and 1 ring slot).

This is best option available. Yes I could do some ar/es gloves, but it would cost me a lot... even more if they wouldn't have dex. These gloves are great for me, they fit my resists needs with combination of other gear pieces and they have dex required to run my green gems. Just perfect, only rrrr is missing. I will rather spent another 17ex on chromes instead of going for some shitty ar/es gloves tied with resists and dex requirement problems.
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Diphal wrote:
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titiAlf wrote:
Who is talking about mirrors? Just pointing out how much you've lost on good rare helmet and shield with not so great chest. Trying to save it with gloves won't help you. Instead of acknowledging that your build is expensive because you can't get enough ES, you accuse game design.

Man, Im not using that Scold's Bridle helmet just for fun. It is build enabling unique directly related to that rrrr sockets in gloves. Im not going to explain further. Point is that I have only 4 free slots to combine ES and resists (gloves, boots, chest and 1 ring slot).

This is best option available. Yes I could do some ar/es gloves, but it would cost me a lot... even more if they wouldn't have dex. These gloves are great for me, they fit my resists needs with combination of other gear pieces and they have dex required to run my green gems. Just perfect, only rrrr is missing. I will rather spent another 17ex on chromes instead of going for some shitty ar/es gloves tied with resists and dex requirement problems.


The interaction isn't complicated, you combo it with vaal molten shell along with a massive mana pool with your helm + pledge of hands.

The real question is why are you going ES and making it ultra beyond hard to gear yourself (2h can't use shield, helm doesn't have high ES ect, forced to use those rings/amulet) Almost every single build using this is life base.
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Diphal wrote:
Man, Im not using that Scold's Bridle helmet just for fun. It is build enabling unique directly related to that rrrr sockets in gloves. Im not going to explain further. Point is that I have only 4 free slots to combine ES and resists (gloves, boots, chest and 1 ring slot).


Well, yeah, that is a weakness of the build then, it seems. You knew that before though, didn't you?

I also could try to make a Saffel's + Lightning Coil build that would require a 6l with 5+ blue slots. I don't, because I know I would get myself in trouble when trying to color those sockets on the Lightning Coil.

You could, BTW, potentially get the required dexterity by changing some of your jewels, for example that Assasin's Haste? Or are they all build-enabling, too?
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