kill the hp node requirement

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twentygold wrote:
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valarias wrote:

You seem to be missing he major point here, unless you stack hp+defensive you're forced to fight below you, right now im stuck farming fellshire cause that is the only way for me to progress, im level 67, im almost at the beginning of exp penalty for merciless docks, and don't even get me started on maps.


you're missing the point that this is not a problem early on like this. no one has awesome gear yet and no one in the end game has built their character based on awesome gear they have available.

of course they are stacking defense and hp right now, that's the only way to succeed without gear. its a gear dependant game. you need to build characters based on gear and spec; if you don't have gear yet, you need to spec accordingly.

Who doesn't have awesome gear yet?
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CommodoX wrote:
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deteego wrote:
D2 was not perfect in this regard, you still had to get resists on gear and in regards to stats, you did have to put some VIT in there

Nope.
Dex onl bow amazon - possible.
Int only ES sorc - possible.
STR only Werwolf - possible.

People even managed to beat norm+nightmare+hell NAKED in a 8 people party and beat Übertrist naked.


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I'd love to take a bit of pressure of gear, placing the skill back in the players hands. I tend to prefer glass cannons in games like this, it feels odd that in order to glass cannon I first had to stack up 75% resist (a clear "tanking move") and grab Chaos Innoculation+tons of energy shield.
Very good thread with lots of good posts. I would agree that combat needs tweaking and that most viable builds rely too much on gear and HP nodes.

I'm a big fan of the game as it is, but hopefully these things change in the future. Fingers crossed.
Reading this from a hardcore perspective boogles the mind.
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Suzumiyaharuhi wrote:
Who doesn't have awesome gear yet?


Where is the awesome gear? I see some slightly above average gear and some crappy gear but no awesome gear.



As far as HP or go home it really depends on what league you are talking about. If you are talking HC well then duh. You always build more defensivly in HC. Some games hide it better than others but there is always an amount of defense in one form or another you shoot for. In default though its not nearly as important. I actually think PoE has a nice mix of required HP to DPS for survival in HC for ranged characters. Melee on the other hand needs some help.
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sithren wrote:
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valarias wrote:


you sir are a godsend.


No problem. Still have to be mobile. They attack in groups and even with max fire resist they will chew through your hp. It helps if you can stun them somehow. I don't remember what they are resistant to, though.


yah a full group of blues will still eat me, but throw up blood rage and i can stand infront of 3 blues a full pack of whites or a yellow, but yah i also have added cold damage and to keep em frozen pretty often.
No. this is a stupid idea.

"Sacrifice almost all dps to survive"

Bull-fucking-shit, if you dont do any dps and dont have enough life you dont know how to play the game.

Youve made 2 threads about how shit you are at level 48 and then at level 67, you cant expect to be good without a decent amount of playtime or at least without a bit of skill or knowledge about the game.

Learn how to make a proper build, get decent gear, and learn how to play, just becuase you cant do these things you shouldnt bitch about how the whole game should be nerfed for you.
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Last edited by VictorDoom#6290 on Feb 12, 2013, 7:54:09 AM
This reminds me of the first month after Diablo 3 came out. Everyone was happy, jolly, having soooo much fun with their full-dps builds. Until they hit Inferno, Act II, that is. It was the exact same discussion as this, only a few pidgeonholed builds were viable, everyone was crying "WAAAAHHH, I BUILT FULL DPS AND NOW I GET ONE-SHOT, WAAAAAAAH"

And then Blizz nerfed inferno with 1.3, making the game the absolute biggest crock of shit Blizz has ever released.

Why the hell do you build full DPS, get to a gear check, and come cry to the forums because you can't pass the gear check? This isn't world of warcraft. You can't kill everything and get to max level in the first week. I won't spend anymore time on this, because most of you will be gone to the next flavor of the month game in a few weeks, but please take your sense of entitlement with you when you go.

This game isn't meant to be conquered in a week. You need epic amounts of patience to play an ARPG properly. GGG, please don't nerf/buff/change things to cater to the babies on the forums who want WoW in an ARPG. We want it to be difficult. We want the weak to die in HC. This game is awesome, cater to your audience that will still be here in 3 months. Those are the ones that will support microtransactions, after all.
Last edited by jarlaxelb#6980 on Feb 12, 2013, 7:46:24 AM
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jarlaxelb wrote:
This reminds me of the first month after Diablo 3 came out. Everyone was happy, jolly, having soooo much fun with their full-dps builds. Until they hit Inferno, Act II, that is. It was the exact same discussion as this, only a few pidgeonholed builds were viable, everyone was crying "WAAAAHHH, I BUILT FULL DPS AND NOW I GET ONE-SHOT, WAAAAAAAH"

And then Blizz nerfed inferno with 1.3, making the game the absolute biggest crock of shit Blizz has ever released.

Why the hell do you build full DPS, get to a gear check, and come cry to the forums because you can't pass the gear check? This isn't world of warcraft. You can't kill everything and get to max level in the first week. I won't spend anymore time on this, because most of you will be gone to the next flavor of the month game in a few weeks, but please take your sense of entitlement with you when you go.

This game isn't meant to be conquered in a week. You need epic amounts of patience to play an ARPG properly. GGG, please don't nerf/buff/change things to cater to the babies on the forums who want WoW in an ARPG. We want it to be difficult. We want the weak to die in HC. This game is awesome, cater to your audience that will still be here in 3 months. Those are the ones that will support microtransactions, after all.


So much fanboying and nonsense.

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