Death Penalty Adjustment Discussion

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goetzjam wrote:

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I only have a few hours to spend on the game every day, which is already more than I should be playing. With a level 90 witch, and multiple hours lost at any death, yes, it can take me quite a while to get back to the level of experience I had before that death.

So GGG needs to cater to players and change the design of the game for "casual" players like yourself, when the whole idea of creating PoE was to create a hardcore like D2 inspired ARPG game, the only reason there is a SC league at all is some people absolutely will not play in a HC setting, but the principles of the game don't have to change just because they decided to add a non perm death league.

They have done it before, in fact many times

Tbh, you should really try and improve your argument. This whole casuals vs hardcore fantasy dichotomy you have going on isn't helping anyone

Thats not even pointing out the obvious moving the goalposts that you have done in your argument

the exp loss is the only thing that makes me not want to play anymore.
i get salty dying in any game but exp loss and the time/currency you lose from rolling maps just adds to the frustration.

Death penalty is fine , you're just too soft for this game - deal with it .

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I will avoid the discussion mostly (I can't take sides for many reasons), but I have a question: Isn't losing map portals enough punishment because of the waste of currency?

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NeroNoah wrote:

I will avoid the discussion mostly (I can't take sides for many reasons), but I have a question: Isn't losing map portals enough punishment because of the waste of currency?

Probably not. But if you lose the entire map + any experience gained in the map, it might be enough. Benefits group play, though (rest of group can finish map + retrieve map drops).

My problem with lag deaths has slightly reduced since the installation of the Brazil server, but that is counterweighted by the fact that I am now at 92, so levelling becomes a lot harder (also due to missing map drops, if I could chain 78s I probably wouldn't have as much of a problem). So, I still think it sucks.

Have to admit though that the last deaths were not mostly lag deaths. Two were just because of high latency (and not additional lag), one was careless play, one was because of Malformation Piety (room was so full of shit that I could not see her). The two before that were because of lag I think (latency spiked from 80-100ms stable to 1700ms out of nowhere).

Why exactly do you need to keep levelling up? I mean, that's the point of decreasing returns (or so GGG says), and those last points won't bring you a lot of power.

You could theoretically don't give a fuck about experience and keep playing (grinding gears and all that).

Me? I want to get one more level to get one more jewel slot before I try Uber again.

If I can get to 96 (probably never going to happen), I could get another one (and some more damage).

Could also get some more mana / mana regen to support a 6link, which I can't at the moment.

I wonder if people would care that much if levelling those last levels were cosmetic only, and the points would be obtainable elsewhere.

Thanks for answering, :P

How about remove death Penalty, but add something like, All Mobs's remaining HP restore to triple of what the remaining is. (if the boss have 25% hp and he manage to kill u, the come back the boss have 75% hp left)

This should be challenging enough. Infact is still more challenging than the so call... "challenging" exp death penalty.

Exp Death penalty does not introduce challenging, stop making excuse for that.