Tornado Shot is a joke right?
" Ice Shot is essentially an AoE skill with 120% damage effectiveness. |
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Ice Shot is in fact blatantly an AoE skill with 120% effective Damage :P However, generally DE penalties and sub-100% Base Damage occurs on multi-hit Skills, AoE or otherwise. Fireball (100% Base) hits once. Firestorm (20% DE) easily lands four hits.
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Tornado shot is strong but it is not the skill itself that is unbalanced, it is the death/decimation/harbinger bows that are unbalanced. There are no other bows that come close to the usefulness of these bows.
I played a ranger last league and it did not matter what bow skill I used, all maps were too easy with all self found gear. |
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" Exactly, and you can pull off quasi-shotgunning with LA and ice shot, but both of them require a tightly packed cluster of enemies, and in case of ice shot pierce/fork/chain is also required to pull it off consistently which can mean additional damage penalties. So, their damage effectiveness kinda reflects this, LA is easy so DE is low, ice shot is harder so it has high DE. But tornado is easy to shotgun with, doesn't require any extra mods and has high damage effectiveness. Seems somebody in balance department messed up the rating cards a bit. " Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" With the introduction of master crafting in patch 1.2, in the first month, those bows were being mass-produced like hamsters. I remember multiple mods crafting was very cheap, but because it was abused like hell with the likes of hybrid mods and other mods, GGG had to raise the price of multiple mod crafting. Even then, it was still getting abused. The culprit for the most part was hybrid mods, and GGG removed that from master crafting in patch 1.3. It was a good damage control, but of course, they are like legacy items now, and we all know how permanent standard league is. lol Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016 |
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thats kinda what I wanted to say anyway :)
ice shot is actually a really good skill, but 1)its aoe is 100% ele when its main target damage is hybrid 2)it cannot shotgun aside from the cone 3)requires pierce to fully take advantage. TS has built-in pierce, is cheaper and can shotgun. you guys are right though, DE is mostly for fast hitting skills. so I stand corrected. |
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" Thicket bows are still good for some builds, because they have a much higher attack speed than Harbingers. The medium speed bow types are a waste of time at the moment, though. With the Maraketh Bow, you could change its implicit to '+6-12% *more* weapon elemental damage', and it still wouldn't be that good. The other families don't even have implicit mods or any other redeeming features. |
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[Removed by Support] tornado shot is weaker than any good shavronne's build, rangers are barely making the top 10 in the new leagues, seriously [Removed by Support]
Last edited by Kieren_GGG#0000 on Jan 6, 2015, 9:10:12 AM
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What an astonishing thing, an account so young and it already shows such bravery and integrity, you don't get to see a sight like this every day.
Please, a round of applause everybody! Wish the armchair developers would go back to developing armchairs.
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" ^ Last edited by Jyssi#3843 on Jan 2, 2015, 7:18:15 PM
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