Tornado Shot is a joke right?

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grepman wrote:
the reason why its so good is 1) pierce of the first form and 2)base damage effectiveness is insane at lvl 20. it has essentially damage effectiveness of a single target skill yet is basically an AoE skill and can shotgun. oh and it pierces 100% on the first form.


The thread creator wrote that his gems are not level 20.
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JohnNamikaze wrote:


Spoiler

I only got like 13k dps with Static Strike from this mace (RT), but that is mostly because I use LL gem in a 5L setup. I prefer to be tanky, then to go all out on DPS. Still does a decent amount of damage, along with not being squishy. Edit: I am also using Reckoning/Riposte in this build to add bit more damage along the way when I block.

Edit2: I forgot to mention that I use HoA for this build to add overkill damage to Static Strike + my trigger skills. Moar damage.


just drop BM from the skill and use WED or melee phys. BM for a skill that cheap is strange. mana management is really easy now for melee so i do not really understand why you have to gimp yourself that way.. replace multistrike with the other from WED/melee phys pair.

with this mace and 5link (or 4link + LL [however LGOH seems to be better at your level of damage]) you should reach 1shot status and then enjoy the full power of this skill. currently you did a lot to make static strike not perform at its peak..

that mace..
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
As for Static Strike, just make those AoE not stack. It is the only thing that is making the skill special from the rest. There is already a delay to for the initial hit, just apply it to the rest. Even if you nerf the AoE portion damage-wise, crit build will still do its thing...while RT gets nothing, but manure to the face.


Heh, fat chance for that. Every time they had a chance to make a skill behave in an interesting way to promote tactical play they went for the pew-pew option.
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sidtherat wrote:

just drop BM from the skill and use WED or melee phys. BM for a skill that cheap is strange. mana management is really easy now for melee so i do not really understand why you have to gimp yourself that way.. replace multistrike with the other from WED/melee phys pair.

with this mace and 5link (or 4link + LL [however LGOH seems to be better at your level of damage]) you should reach 1shot status and then enjoy the full power of this skill. currently you did a lot to make static strike not perform at its peak..

that mace..




With almost of all of mana reserved.....yea I am keeping my BM in place. As for Multistrike, I will keep it as it is for now. I am clearing things very quickly. While I may be gimping myself to an extent (I did it on purpose), I am not aiming myself to be pure offense. I would run at the risk of killing myself by reflect, and I am currently in the threshold of fighting with reflect with no issue.


I know you are trying to help me out get more DPS, but that is not my style. -_-



@raics: It cannot be helped. lol
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- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Jan 1, 2015, 6:38:17 AM
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JohnNamikaze wrote:
Kinetic Blast is another new Gem on the block that happens to be almost like Tornado Shot, but for wanders only. Honestly, when it comes to wanders, you only have Power Siphon.....and maybe Barrage that does well. There is just a lack of wanders skills that even stand out to begin with. Power Siphon still shines, it just lacks AoE for the extra damage.


The Power Siphon + Herald of Ash combo is potentially interesting, given PS's extreme one-hit damage potential. You just need to hit that one enemy hard enough, and everything else will get vaporised.
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Incompetent wrote:

The Power Siphon + Herald of Ash combo is potentially interesting, given PS's extreme one-hit damage potential. You just need to hit that one enemy hard enough, and everything else will get vaporised.



I am actually trying that now since I have build that uses both Power Siphon and Kinectic Blast with HoA/HoI/HoT/Anger, and it is a light house of destruction. Though, I have Power Siphon as multi-target while Kinectic Blast (thanks to its quality bonus + Blast radius, making the explosions pretty big) as single target, both doing are well. I know it makes more sense to have Power Siphon as single target because of the inherit culling strike, but that is just me trying to make an interesting combo...and unique build.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Jan 1, 2015, 5:51:20 PM
but do your defenses suck? From what I know rangers have almost only HP.
WHAT?!!! Tornado shot still doesnt suck?!! That gotta be fixes GGG for gods sake! Thats unappropriate! I wont sleep well untill every gem in the game is suck!

You nerfed everything, even Puncture is a trash now but how could you forget about Tornado? We donate you our money, do you job or Im quit!
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kompaniet wrote:
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grepman wrote:
the reason why its so good is 1) pierce of the first form and 2)base damage effectiveness is insane at lvl 20. it has essentially damage effectiveness of a single target skill yet is basically an AoE skill and can shotgun. oh and it pierces 100% on the first form.


The thread creator wrote that his gems are not level 20.

well ok, but even 100% effectiveness is huge for what is essentially an AOE skill

most AOE skills in the game have reduced damage effectiveness because...theyre AOE. and TS is great for both AOE and ST, which isnt common with bow skills in this game.
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grepman wrote:

well ok, but even 100% effectiveness is huge for what is essentially an AOE skill

most AOE skills in the game have reduced damage effectiveness because...theyre AOE. and TS is great for both AOE and ST, which isnt common with bow skills in this game.



Well, at least TS does not get an "x% increased physical damage per level" like most ranged skills get. TS just depends on your weapon's DPS, that is all you are getting from the gem. The damage effectiveness does level up just like ST, but ST includes "x% increased physical damage per level" to balance out the low effectiveness.



Honestly, if you have a mirrored bow, or at least a GG crit bow/GG ele crit speed bow, you are still going to wreck a lot of things in the game with TS or not. For the ones that do not have those crazy bows, it is a very good bow skill.



Edit: One thing to note, TS already got an indirect nerf by having the hybrid mods be removed from master crafting, so it is much harder to craft a GG bow just to take advantage of the mechanics behind TS.
Sometimes you can take the game out of the garage but you can't take the garage out of the game.
- raics, 06.08.2016

Last edited by JohnNamikaze#6516 on Jan 2, 2015, 5:28:29 PM

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