Why Atziri's Acuity is actually balanced! (For those who don't know game balancing)
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I understand why they focus on balancing temporary leagues, laddering is one of the funnest aspects of PoE and its spiritual predecessor. So lets not talk about standard.
The problem is, these gloves are not even balanced in temporary leagues. The item requires farming the hardest instance in the game (which requires farming the 2nd hardest one in the game to even run), and even then they are a very rare drop. The problem is that when someone does get them, it will rocket them to the top of the ladder. The passive is so incredibly strong, it basically makes your character unkillable unless you get 1 shot or die to lag, AND removes all resource concerns. The game becomes so trivial. Compare this to another item most people consider very powerful, Shavronne's Wrappings. It is considerably more common, although it can't be called common by any means. And it will let you farm much, much more effectively. But it doesn't make your character unkillable. At best you can get low life bonuses for free and run a few extra auras for free. But you lose out on 15% more ES and the ES on Shavs is low, so you really need good gear to not have a pitiful ES pool with shavs. You will still die even if leeching - you can get essentially the same affect for life as Acuity by grabbing Vaal Pact, but there is no other mechanic in the game that can remove all resource troubles without spending a ton of points and gear on it. |
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" to add to that, going pure ES u have the problem of stun frozen etc which is a major drawback. To the guy that saying "u can use chayula dispell frozen flask and crap", well it still a sacrifice to the amulet slot, a mod in a flask, no hp flask, and also gear dependent. Plus, 1ES IS NOT EQUAL TO 1HP... |
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Hahaha. "Scarcity makes them balanced". I havent read something that funny in a while.
Theres people who run Uber dozens of times a day and get multiple drops of this item daily. Do you really think that these are "scarce" ? People have been face rolling Uber for a while now, just a little hint, no thats not balancing at all. Thats putting a band-aid on a gunshot wound. Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner. "But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. |
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" IMHO if they reasonably buffed Vaal Pact (let's say 75%-80% leech effectiveness) a lot of people would stop flipping shit My (somewhat empty for now) Rampage shop thread: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1014634
Take a look :) |
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" well the point he was making was that in a 3-month temp league with its rarity being made very scarce (say like the axe) you average about 1 glove in 100 uber runs. sure, the top players will still get it, but its no gonna be terribly easy for them easier, and will require dat RNG with that said, it is still merely a temporary bandaid, pretty much sweeping the dirt under the rug and assuming that not many will look under the rug Last edited by grepman#2451 on Aug 20, 2014, 3:09:12 AM
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" It isn't balanced. Your argument is terrible. "balance by scarcity" isn't even really a thing. Last edited by Veruski#5480 on Aug 20, 2014, 8:15:32 AM
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" I'm fundamentally against buffing (or nerfing) something as broad as a keystone because of one item's interaction with it (or at least its implicit relationship to it). Part of my resistance to the idea is that I've inherited, or perhaps been infected with, GGG's perspective on that matter. If you're going to fix a problem, fix the problem -- don't obliquely approach it from the side. To change Vaal Pact as a result of any single item's existence would be tantamount to saying 'this keystone has no real value beyond ______'. This may or may not be true, but it cannot be acted upon. If Vaal Pact needs a buff regardless, then that's fine. Have at it. But if so, present that argument more soundly than simply 'because it'd reduce the effectiveness of a single unique that the vast majority of the player base will never acquire.' (Sorry, I've never looked deeply at Atziri's Acuity, so cannot say how it relates to Vaal Pact beyond they're both about life leech. My point stands, UNLESS Vaal Pact has no function other than in relation to said item.) PS 'Flipping shit' as in buying low/selling high, or 'flipping their shit' as in 'going bananas'? If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Aug 20, 2014, 8:49:41 AM
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except vaal pact should be buffed for reasons that have nothing to do with acuity
which kind of obliterates your point the fact that it would have the side effect of nerfing acuity is positive, though. [Removed by Support] Last edited by Kieren_GGG#0000 on Aug 20, 2014, 8:50:49 AM
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As for balance by scarcity, that idea was introduced in Closed Beta when uniques gained 'tiers' of rarity, and it worked for a while. I think we have way too many players running the top-top content now, and many of them very active traders, for that to really hold anymore.
I maintain that this was the least terrible option for an item that probably should never have existed. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between.
I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. |
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They need to buff vaal pact period.
40% is useless and those gloves are a joke. Couldve bought them for 58ex 2 days ago now i will never own them. Really dont know how to survive without VP.. on the hunt
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