I think a GGG response on Vaal Oversoul is due.

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TheAnuhart wrote:

Then this happens http://www.twitch.tv/theanuhart/c/4506371

Vaal has learned some new streetfighting techniques. Pretty deadly slow motion uppercut.

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StormHunter wrote:

Why are you even complaing, you get the game for free,

Free or not, it is up to GGG to decide if they are proud of the monsters that GGG place in the game...find bugs that can one shot you without it even been the players fault, and to not fix it for over a year. That is just dumb. Free or not.

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But it turned out to be special version of the game that is desynch free. If they create, test, play their content in that environment, then it is only natural that they would say "Desynch? WTF is that??! Never seen one."

It is possible that they are playing on the server. No such thing as desync, as there is no sync to be had.

A better way to test would be to play from the client side to see what the client (player) experiences.

I posted your video on reddit to see what the response would be.

People just don't give a fuck. It got downvoted into the negatives, and fanboys (like always) insinuate that it was the player's fault for not stepping out of the way. Amazing. Simply amazing.

in that special case you were still in the aoe of the vaalsmash serverside which was performed by him right as he came up.

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SVD wrote:

in that special case you were still in the aoe of the vaalsmash serverside which was performed by him right as he came up.

Bingo.

I was a little dishonest up to now.

I WAS just on the edge of the AoE of the 'real' Vaal, and I knew this all along (after it happened of course).

I really wanted a GGG guy to tell me this, though.
If you watch the VoD, Vaal begins his smash animation immediately on surfacing.
Here's the kicker.
What does a player do if a 1 shot boss pops under them? - They move.
What does the 1 shot boss do if the player moves? - Follows them on server side.
What happens when the 1 shot boss animates walking? - The smash animation is halted, paused, until he stops walking.

So here we have it. Vaal can start his smash immediately, it is very likely the player will start to move in time to cut the animation before it even visually begins. We have a boss which if a player pre-empts, goes into a state where the player can NOT react to a telegraph 1 shot.

Now THAT, is something which I, personally would not have let out of Q&A.
It is something that I, personally, if had seen had gotten past Q&A, would pull, remove, fix, and drag Q&A into the office.
It is something that GGG either see as OK, or don't know exist. THIS IS BAD. Not least because of SotV Atziri instance.

this is the overall impression i have of so so so many features in this game.

so many features just don't work nicely because of multiple scenarios not being looked at at all.

1 super simple example:
initial namelocking of the entrance of your current instance on arrival.
this serves no purpose other than force misclicks.

i get it that programming a game is no easy feat, but rushing out one untested / undertested feature after another definetely is no best practice measure.

This game is a poor clone of a great game by great devs from last millenia that's all.

I got PKed by another player on 2-week HARDCORE/RACE.
Why the hack can I be PKed in hardcore at all?

Some mobs on same level do 100 times more damage than other (sea witches and evangelists)

Some bosses of same level maps do 100 times more damage than other (shipyard/shrine or coutyard/palace)

Desyncs are - yeah. Sure its so hard to recode that blabla.

Snapshots - wtf RF does same damage as my crit witch that put all gear and points into damage.
He just runs around in 4l? With 6k hp? And does same damage? And doesn't have to even cast anything? Just mouse click? And kills atziri in 3ex worth gear?

All your gameplay in a league depends if you get a shav as drop on first week of playing or not. Got shavs first week = farm uber in a month. No got 2ex+ item first month = go rip off noobs on trade "WTB alts 20:1c" for the next 2 monthes and hope you farm enough chaos in docks to buy normal atziri boost to even see how she looks. Or roll RF. Map party 6 players all RF. GG.

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rrtson wrote:

I posted your video on reddit to see what the response would be.

People just don't give a fuck. It got downvoted into the negatives, and fanboys (like always) insinuate that it was the player's fault for not stepping out of the way. Amazing. Simply amazing.

The responses are exactly as expected.

I wonder what GGG take from this.

That the general consensus among their cosy reddit community is to accept broken.
That any new players would be told how noob they are for not knowing broken when they see it.

It's the bizarre situation where GGG have at their defence, an army of people ready and willing to back up GGG with an explanation of how broken the game is.

:/

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TheAnuhart wrote:

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Alea wrote:

What kind of answer would you expect to get from ggg about your... issue ?
Some kind of flat apologizes ?

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TheAnuhart wrote:

What I really want explained, is the Vaal-chasing-you thing. Well, that and the telegraph animation being so far out to the damage.

There has to be improvements that can be made there. I just don't understand how a company could accept these in a released fight. And for so long, too. Then go and put 2 of the damned things in their flagship 1st expansion boss instance.

Well, no. You said 'expect to get from GGG'.

Expect from a gaming company? The above.
Expect from GGG about Vaal? Silence.

There is a point where it is no longer considered constructive criticism and enters the realm of mindless bashing and attacking and you have clearly long passed that point.

GGG is more in touch with their community than any other dev I have seen, from the daily posts by the head dev to the manifesto or the responses on the forums, I have never seen another dev big or small go to these lengths.

Just because they don't give you a personal response to your own specific desync situation is not a good reason to make GGG sound like the devil. I wouldn't want to respond to someone who speaks like you if I was them either. Clearly you have no compassion or understanding for their side of the equation and have probably not even put a single second of thought into anything other than your own wants. Any dialogue they try to have with someone like you would only bring them harm.

Sure the game has flaws, big ones. And of course you have to bring these up to have them addressed. That being said the hate filled anti-GGG rants that I have seen you and some other posters go on is not the way to do it.