"If PoE increased droprates, people would instantly leave the game"

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Faendris wrote:
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Hyskoa wrote:
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DirkAustin wrote:


Lol, POE is already better than D2. For one thing, no dupes and no cheats, some exploits but that is to be expected.

D2 fanboys are worse than WoW fanboys sometimes. Its like some people here are getting paid by acti blizz to promote their shitty games and i played D2 and only Median XL brought me back after playing a lot of LOD.


Don't be silly. D2(except for the spammers and the older graphics) is pretty damn near perfect.
It does what it needs to do extremely well. Namely "be fun".
That's all a game needs to do.


See, "be fun" is highly subjective. But if you consider D2 to be perfect, then why are you here? I am here because I consider PoE (with all its flaws that it has) to be superior to any other game. If that were not the case, I would post in the forum of the game that I consider to be better than PoE.



To be specific, you're spending your time berating others who have issues with the game. Not posting glorifying topics, not playing the game, but spending your time in threads which you seemingly despise. You spend just as much time and energy in these types of threads (if not more) that the people you tell to go away. Maybe take your own advice? It's been pointed out many times (probably by you) that people satisfied with the game are playing it, not posting about it. What does that say about you?
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bluefalcon74 wrote:
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Faendris wrote:
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Hyskoa wrote:


Don't be silly. D2(except for the spammers and the older graphics) is pretty damn near perfect.
It does what it needs to do extremely well. Namely "be fun".
That's all a game needs to do.


See, "be fun" is highly subjective. But if you consider D2 to be perfect, then why are you here? I am here because I consider PoE (with all its flaws that it has) to be superior to any other game. If that were not the case, I would post in the forum of the game that I consider to be better than PoE.



To be specific, you're spending your time berating others who have issues with the game. Not posting glorifying topics, not playing the game, but spending your time in threads which you seemingly despise. You spend just as much time and energy in these types of threads (if not more) that the people you tell to go away. Maybe take your own advice? It's been pointed out many times (probably by you) that people satisfied with the game are playing it, not posting about it. What does that say about you?



It says he can't play at the moment (maybe at work?) and refuses to let the forum be dominated by players determined to change the game to satisfy their entitlement issues. While other players are content with the issues that are being contested.

Lets talk about desync, EVERYONE hates desync.
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xXx_EliteHardcorePro_xXx wrote:
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cyranorick wrote:
Nowadays most people want everything. Fast. Immediately.
I hope GGG is not going to cater towards them more and more.

oh right diablo 2 came out 'nowadays'

did you even read the first post?

Endgame items are so common in D2 everyone can get them. fast. immediately.
and people still play it after 10 years.



the only peoples i know that still plays d2 are botters and they sticked to d2 because they didnt find an efficient way to bot other games without being banned.
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bluefalcon74 wrote:

To be specific, you're spending your time berating others who have issues with the game. Not posting glorifying topics, not playing the game, but spending your time in threads which you seemingly despise. You spend just as much time and energy in these types of threads (if not more) that the people you tell to go away. Maybe take your own advice? It's been pointed out many times (probably by you) that people satisfied with the game are playing it, not posting about it. What does that say about you?


WTF kind of logic is that? Some casuals wants the game we love changed to suit their pathetic lazyness and we don't have the right to come here and prove them wrong? Aren't you the guy who admitted not willing to trade and not willing to vendor any rares while whining about not being able to get geared? What does that say about YOU?
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Still playing D3 - still getting a unique every 30-45mins that is specific to the character I'm currently playing and max leveled - still playing it - still loving every minute of it.


Guess I'm not instantly leaving a game that gives good drop rates.
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phrazz wrote:
I have a totally different "memory" of D2. I also only played self found, and I did beat the game with Barb and Sorc, dragging myself up to level 89, I think. No duping, no online play - nothing.


This was my experience. I completed Hell difficulty on each class multiple times, and never hit a gear wall. I've completed Titan Quest on Legendary with well over 20 characters, including defeating all Legendary Bosses, and never hit a gear wall. Nearly all of these were solo, and when I played multiplayer it was LAN with people I knew.

In PoE, every character I have made hits a gear wall at the end of Cruel. It seems that I can find the gear, but never get the sockets, or I can find the sockets, but the gear rolls are horrible. I've spent stacks of Orbs on rerolls, when throwing them on the ground would have been more productive. Let's not even start on the topic of finding build-enabling uniques, something I gave up months ago.

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Worldbreaker wrote:
Increasing the drop rates of powerful unique or rare items would be the worst decision. If shavs dropped after 100 hours or whatever then it feels like a job, put in the time to get it and get it. Also putting in double the effort you get another, you don't even get excited and most likely can't sell it because so many drop. Look at face breakers or wondertrap, people use them for builds but who gets excited when one drops?


If, by some miracle, I got a Shavs every 100 hours, I'd probably end up making a new character every 100 hours. If Facebreakers or Wondertrap dropped for me, I'd be very happy. Heck, if *any* unique drops, I'm usually ecstatic!

I play PoE because it is fun, not because of some trading simulator built in. While I couldn't care less about the economy, I do understand that GGG wants the game to have a good economy, and I appreciate the work they have put into the game to make it so.

This is why, for me, Custom Leagues is the #1 feature I'm looking forward to. Let me bump base IIQ/IIR, enable a ton of challenge mods (Ancestral, EE, Invasion, Ambush, Nemesis, Shrines, etc), and make it to where my characters can never join any other leagues, and I'll be playing PoE for as long as the servers are up.
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bluefalcon74 wrote:
WTF kind of logic is that? Some casuals wants the game we love changed to suit their pathetic lazyness and we don't have the right to come here and prove them wrong?


What's the point of a game you can't be lazy in?

I play self-found and give stuff away to my friends, who I guess are "casuals", seeing as they don't play nearly as much as I do. They want to log in, kill some critters, and escape life for a while. If they play long enough, I'll probably get them to buy a couple more guild stashes, or otherwise spend money, which they were never going to do if their characters couldn't even get past Cruel level because they fail gear checks without my hand-me-downs.

If I want to grind to get materials to craft items instead of grinding to get material to buy items, why is that seen as being "lazy" anyway? Either way you have to grind, so why not let people have more choices for what to do with the product of that playtime rather than less? Already my one buddy has a toon in the mid-50 levels where his gear means he dies quite a bit, because I don't have enough really good items to outfit him properly and we certainly don't find enough when we're partied up. If I could craft some decent upgrades, or find them, that problem would go away, without me having to spend hours trawling 3rd-party websites or dive into the idiocy and chaos of trade chat, which I'm not really interested in doing for myself, never mind others.


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Isbox1 wrote:
Still playing D3 - still getting a unique every 30-45mins that is specific to the character I'm currently playing and max leveled - still playing it - still loving every minute of it.


Guess I'm not instantly leaving a game that gives good drop rates.


Let's see if you still love it in one month when you have capped your uniques and can't upgrade gear without spending much more efford.
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Isbox1 wrote:
Still playing D3 - still getting a unique every 30-45mins that is specific to the character I'm currently playing and max leveled - still playing it - still loving every minute of it.


Guess I'm not instantly leaving a game that gives good drop rates.



I haven't played D3 for a very long time,but wouldn't the bolded part be a headache for pimping followers ?
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jamjamsjammies wrote:
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bluefalcon74 wrote:
WTF kind of logic is that? Some casuals wants the game we love changed to suit their pathetic lazyness and we don't have the right to come here and prove them wrong?


What's the point of a game you can't be lazy in?

I play self-found and give stuff away to my friends, who I guess are "casuals", seeing as they don't play nearly as much as I do. They want to log in, kill some critters, and escape life for a while. If they play long enough, I'll probably get them to buy a couple more guild stashes, or otherwise spend money, which they were never going to do if their characters couldn't even get past Cruel level because they fail gear checks without my hand-me-downs.

If I want to grind to get materials to craft items instead of grinding to get material to buy items, why is that seen as being "lazy" anyway? Either way you have to grind, so why not let people have more choices for what to do with the product of that playtime rather than less? Already my one buddy has a toon in the mid-50 levels where his gear means he dies quite a bit, because I don't have enough really good items to outfit him properly and we certainly don't find enough when we're partied up. If I could craft some decent upgrades, or find them, that problem would go away, without me having to spend hours trawling 3rd-party websites or dive into the idiocy and chaos of trade chat, which I'm not really interested in doing for myself, never mind others.




You play self-found. You chose to impose yourself an handicap then want the game to improve drop rates? Get the hell out of here. Why would they change the whole game for a few players who wants to play a different game. What you want is a solo-player game like dragon age or something. Sorry to burst your bubble but you and your friends aren't playing the right game... POE would be the right game for you if GGG released a new self found league with increased drop rate (something that goes against the philosophy of the game if you look at it's description).

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