Nothing drops in this game. Unrewarding to play.

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majesw wrote:

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Veruski wrote:

i don't see anything from that in the manifesto.

proof or citation needed. if anything, full respecs are often given quite generously during balance changes, etc.

i don't think a decent drop or two by 92 is much to "expect" from the game

I still don't get how you have that gear and you think you haven't dropped anything decent...
Was it all given to you?

it's not worth much of anything, i don't understand why you keep harping on my gear.

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Veruski wrote:

it's not worth much of anything, i don't understand why you keep harping on my gear.

Okay fair enough I'll lay it out for you.
If you have not traded at all to get your gear and you have played 2 months, then your gear is fantastic.
Finding 10-15 exalts worth of gear is a good haul for 2 months of play.

At level 86, the gear on my character is worth perhaps a total of 2 exalts. That's if I can actually find buyers for any of it.

I know that I have found and crafted other gear worth approximately 5-8 exalts but it wasn't for my character.

I don't know your situation. I don't know how much you trade, or if you are any good at trading. I don't know if you give gear to friends. But I do know what your gear is worth. I do know that it is very good gear.

I'm simply pointing out that the gear you are wearing is the expected drops for someone who plays for two months. It's very good. It's not top of the line, end game gear, but it's very good. Now if you were a trading aficionado then I would expect better gear. But yours seems to be about right.

The problem we are having is that you think your gear is trash. So therefore you think you haven't dropped anything. It's two different perspectives...

you are 6 levels below me, representing well over 100 76/77/78 maps, and already admitted to finding more value than my current gearset

what is your point, again?

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Veruski wrote:

you are 6 levels below me, representing well over 100 76/77/78 maps, and already admitted to finding more value than my current gearset

what is your point, again?

Welp I'll admit it. You've frustrated me.
You've misunderstood and misrepresented my posts from the very start.
You want me to assume that the only items you've ever found are the ones displayed on your character which in themselves equal what I've found the whole league INCLUDING my currency drops.

It's the classic problem where two people view the same situation in opposite ways.
I think you've dropped very good gear.
You think you've dropped nothing.
I'm not going to convince you otherwise no matter how I lay out my case.
So I'll just say I hope your luck improves and be done with it.
Cheers mate!

got this for about 23 exalts in open beta . all my builds use this chest armor , i would have quit a long time ago if i wouldt own something that can be the base for interesting builds.

oh and ofc i dont trade/flip so i never got that kind of money again.

To ppl that think higher drop rates woud kill the game : U R idiots. Its pretty much exactly the other way around


edit :oh yeah and i found 1 lioneyes bow worth about 1 exalt ad a good dagger thats it .

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karlklaps wrote:

got this for about 23 exalts in open beta . all my builds use this chest armor , i would have quit a long time ago if i wouldt own something that can be the base for interesting builds.

oh and ofc i dont trade/flip so i never got that kind of money again.

To ppl that think higher drop rates woud kill the game : U R idiots. Its pretty much exactly the other way around


edit :oh yeah and i found 1 lioneyes bow worth about 1 exalt ad a good dagger thats it .

Got this for pretty the same price.
Since i played with MF CI flickerstrike build, i found pretty a LOT of quite valuable gear with my shadow. Most of it was worth just few exalts, i've managed to find only 2 items above 10 exa worth - an amazing rare claw and Shavronne's Wrappings. I dont remember an exact number of those items worth 2-5 exa, but i think i've found around 15-20 of them. Of course, most of them i found BEFORE uniques got gated behind maps. Also, most of them i found in Open Beta. However, i found Shavronne short before i desided to stop playing.
To be honest, item drops didnt showed unrewarding for me, most of the time. However, i was very upset by other flaws in the game - desyncs, FPS drops and endgame content gated behind RNG and massive currency sink. The last one is the most frustrating. I managed to get godly gear and yet i'm stuck at mid-level maps (70-74) just because droprates for higher maps are pathetic.
Oh, and there was another things, of course. GGG massively pushed IQ items into legacy, released new content (Atziri) gated behind farming of low-level content, and my favourite standard league became a junkpile, inhabited mostly by vermins and parasites, flooded by legacies and gear from all other leagues.

You think item drop is an issue? Believe me, it isnt, unless you want to play without trading (and that shouldnt be done for trade-oriented game). And no matter how high or low droprates will be, there will always be whine about it.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

You think item drop is an issue?

Yup.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

Believe me, it isnt

Why would I believe you, when I have my very own much more reliable data, my own first hand experience?

Drops are shit.

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

unless you want to play without trading

Play without trading? And make the game even more impossible for myself? Fuck that.

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Veruski wrote:

Drops are shit.

Maybe. But percentage of drops considered "good" (or "sellable") will be the same. I'm more concerned about all that legacy shit, that prevents new items drop being sold for fair price (cause their stats are nerfed, mostly).

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Veruski wrote:

Drops are shit.

Maybe. But percentage of drops considered "good" (or "sellable") will be the same. I'm more concerned about all that legacy shit, that prevents new items drop being sold for fair price (cause their stats are nerfed, mostly).

doesn't affect me, i don't play on legacy leagues to avoid problems like that.

instead, i played the 4-month, and have realized that the drops are basically tuned around botters and cheaters.

thanks, balance team

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Veruski wrote:

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MortalKombat3 wrote:

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Veruski wrote:

Drops are shit.

Maybe. But percentage of drops considered "good" (or "sellable") will be the same. I'm more concerned about all that legacy shit, that prevents new items drop being sold for fair price (cause their stats are nerfed, mostly).

doesn't affect me, i don't play on legacy leagues to avoid problems like that.

instead, i played the 4-month, and have realized that the drops are basically tuned around botters and cheaters.

thanks, balance team

With that, i agree. 4 months arent enough to get high-end drops. For 4-month league, drops should indeed be MUCH higher.