Nothing drops in this game. Unrewarding to play.

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Veruski wrote:

1) you can go through 3k fusings and not get a 6L. so yes, you were incredibly lucky

2) i could liquidate my entire stash, + all my gear, and still not be able to afford your lucky chest.

feel lucky enough, yet?

and oh yeah, i played ambush longer/to higher level than you.

yes, you got lucky dude. and luck isn't a skill, or a trait. it's just something that randomly happens.

so you want RNG to be gone?

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The game rewards skill by someone who is more "skilled" at the game by requiring less gear to survive. If you are skilled enough to min/max or kite etc. you will require less gear than someone who doesn't.

not quite accurate worldbreaker. . .

The game rewards builds that survive desync while maintaining a "medium" of dps to clear content.

Since a single dead in hardcore nullify's all prior investment and a single dead in lvl 90+ in standard will cost you a huge deal of currency.

Just saying, your point would be accurate if the system can handle the play style you describe. It can not in it's current form, therefore your point becomes moot.

And yes, you got lucky with your chest, congratz on that. What i wonder then, does it feel rewarding to get lucky? I cant possible imagine that to be the case.

In that same sense, does it feel nice to know when you 6-link an item, a bunch of other players have left the game out of frustration because they wasted a whole year farming currency and getting nothing out of it in return? (since for every successful 6-link story, a higher amount of negative story's exist?)

If i get a 6-link, for sure i won't be happy with it. Just knowing that because of my luck, other people needed to be unlucky is enough to make my joy plummet in that case.

But that's a personal experience. I don't expect everybody in a rogue like game to wish the best to all of the participants like i do.

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Tom1989 wrote:

so you want RNG to be gone?

ofc not, but there are limits on how much RNG and variance I will accept in a game

PoE seems to be off the deep end in my experience.

i don't know where exactly the line is, but PoE is very far beyond it. my experience would not be like this, otherwise.

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Boem wrote:

In that same sense, does it feel nice to know when you 6-link an item, a bunch of other players have left the game out of frustration because they wasted a whole year farming currency and getting nothing out of it in return?

this x1000000

the people who advocate the bullshit of ridiculous horrible RNG don't realize the other end of it. there are two sides to this story.

one of them involves somebody putting a some effort in, and getting something in return

the other end involves numerous different people putting a LOT OF EFFORT IN, and getting virtually nothing in return. or even negative return, if they were naive/stupid enough to try a giant linking project like going for 6L - which basically requires you to get lucky.

i wasn't dumb enough to attempt any big crafting/linking projects this league. the most i have gone for is 6S/5L, which is doable without insane luck. you can still come out in the negatives, and i did several times, but it is not an enormously expensive loss.

Sigh.. it wasn't about 6L'ing the damn chest, the chest was a good item BEFORE I linked it.



Or I could 6L this "good" chest that dropped. Still a good chest before I link it.


There is more and yes you could obtain any of that, I have it listed for cheap and odds are you have found similar or better.

i could quite easily convert 100% of the stuff i own into fusings, spend them all on a decent chest, and never get a 6L

why the fuck would i do that?

you basically put 800 fusings on the roulette table and called RED and it landed on RED

grats bro, you won at double or nothing with 49.99% chance to win... but don't tell me that's what you have to do to get ahead in PoE, because that's bullshit

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Veruski wrote:

i could quite easily convert 100% of the stuff i own into fusings, spend them all on a decent chest, and never get a 6L

why the fuck would i do that?

you basically put 800 fusings on the roulette table and called RED and it landed on RED

grats bro, you won at double or nothing with 49.99/50.01 odds... but don't tell me that's what you have to do to get ahead in PoE, because that's bullshit

I was playing 78 maps just fine with it as a 5L before I 6L'd it.

Keep ignoring the fact I am talking about the chest pre-6L and keep bringing up the fucking fact it is a 6L. Makes sense, I can ignore facts to win arguments too.

it's not a huge find without links.

i'm not ignoring it. but you have brought up the links on numerous occasions (including the very low amount of fuses you used). i can understand that. why?

because links on a chest are a pretty big deal.

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Veruski wrote:

it's not a huge find without links.

i'm not ignoring it. but you have brought up the links on numerous occasions. i can understand that. why?

because links on a chest are a pretty big deal.

Why would I link that chest to begin with if it wasn't "good"?

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Worldbreaker wrote:

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Veruski wrote:

it's not a huge find without links.

i'm not ignoring it. but you have brought up the links on numerous occasions. i can understand that. why?

because links on a chest are a pretty big deal.

Why would I link that chest to begin with if it wasn't "good"?

I had almost the same chests for sale in my shop (non-linked). Guess what? Nobody ever asked for them! It's because nobody needs armour or evasion chest without links, links are the MAIN stat on those chests. One can get far better chest, if he just buys crappy white 6-L and rolls it himself, rather then trying to 6L non-godly one.

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Veruski wrote:

it's not a huge find without links.

i'm not ignoring it. but you have brought up the links on numerous occasions (including the very low amount of fuses you used). i can understand that. why?

because links on a chest are a pretty big deal.

RNG is always about luck. lets not talk about linking stuff lol. I guess what OP really what to say is: effort guarantees nothing in poe

if that's what op wanted to talk about, there are way more questions that need to be answered.
For one : What should be guaranteed to return ?
For another : What level of effort is needed ?

I think the situation is huge amount of effort is needed to get something decent.
RNG favor the lucky ones, lets live with it.