Question to the people who dont play PoE but post around here?

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lolbam wrote:

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Laminar_Flow1 wrote:

In hopes of changes that make the game worth returning to, is all.

good answer

thanks

tho from what i see thats not what most the people are trying to do

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Firecrest5 wrote:

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Whenever I get burned out at work, it's nice to come here and read all these posts by people [Removed by Support]

Also, the game was pretty fun. If I ever read a bunch of posts that were like, "Desync is fixed and end game is no longer gated behind RNG!", I would probably come back for awhile.

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Temper wrote:

Yeah well if I can make at least one person per day feel good about themselves by just being stupid I'll die a happy man ... stupid but happy. =)

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Firecrest5 wrote:

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Temper wrote:

Yeah well if I can make at least one person per day feel good about themselves by just being stupid I'll die a happy man ... stupid but happy. =)

Stupid and happy is the best way to go. It makes for great YouTube videos for the rest of us.

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mazul wrote:

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lolbam wrote:

are you guys d3 trolls or somthing?

i see alot of people around here who havent played in 3-4 months post here every day saying how good or bad PoE is

if you dont play anymore why would you think anyone would care what you say?

thanks

People who still care about the status of PoE despite not currently playing, are truly loyal fans.

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kasub wrote:

There is a lot of people who played for many 100s of hours and eventually moved on from PoE. Most of them simply leave while a small bunch like dragging everyone down with them. They spread negativity and never take notice to improvements.

Of course there is also lots of great criticism but that's a minority unfortunately.

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Worldbreaker wrote:

What else could you want?

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Mivo wrote:

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Worldbreaker wrote:

What else could you want?

I can only answer this in a bit of a vague, subjective way:

What I would like is a greater sense of reward that stems from targeted effort.

Okay, what does that even mean? I'll try and explain. I like having tangible, smaller objectives that I can work toward to and that are realistically achievable. For example, in D2, if I wanted unique X, I knew which bosses or zones had a "good" chance to drop it, and I could do "focused farming" for the specific item. I didn't always get it, let alone fast, but I knew I was in the right place. In PoE, my two choices are: maps for XP, Piety (or Dominus if a build handles him well) for wealth. That's it. There is really no focus, because the loot tables are so vast and disorganized.

What I am supposed to do is to sell whatever I find and then use the currency to buy whatever I want, but that is so open-ended and unspecific that it makes me feel like a hamster in a wheel. Of course I was also a hamster in D2, as is the nature of grinding games, but I felt there was some choice and some control. I don't know if that makes sense.

Then there is crafting. If you take trading for currency out of the equation, crafting is a gamble of a magnitude that causes immense frustration. In Domination I had about 500 jeweler's orbs, which were the result of playing (self-found) a substantial amount of time. Add a couple hundred more from converting other stuff. I found a Cloak of Defiance and I figured I'd try to socket and link it. A bit later, I had spent all my orbs and still didn't have six sockets.

I don't know how many fuses I would have needed to 5L a 6S chest, but I spent several 100s of them in Ambush too without any success. This is like taking your savings of 10 years into a casino, putting them on a number between 0 and 237283602 on a giant roulette and then ending up with nothing.

There are people who manage either of these feats in 20-40 orbs, but it's just not my experience. Odds like these are ridiculous if you don't trade (I could have bought a 5L6S CoD for a LOT less currency). I don't want instant gratification, and I played D2 for years without even seeing a Windforce, and that was fine. But in PoE, it's everything -- everything feels tedious and punishing.

The game design strikes me as hostile toward the gamer. I don't mind working toward goals, but without trading you don't even know if you get closer to your goal. It just starts to feel pointless after a while, and being over forty, my appreciation of the quality of the time I spent increases steadily. I wouldn't mind playing 8 hours a day (on days where I can do that) IF I enjoyed myself consistently. But if a large portion of the time feels like something I should get paid for, then it stops being a game.

I like mapping, but mapping stops being self-sufficient after a certain level. I also enjoy leveling to, say, 70+, but I have tried most of the builds that I found very attractive. There are others that I am curious about, but then I look at the gear I'd need for them and this sense of leaden heaviness creeps all over me -- and I boot up another game or pull out a novel and flop down on the couch.

This sounds more negative than I want it to, and maybe it's all just jumbled thoughts. Like I said, I don't "hate" the game or think it's a bad game. It's just ... that it could be so much more, you know?