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Mahesys wrote:
To people who're getting oneshotted both by invasion bosses or new exiles: post your build and gear. An average player CAN'T be oneshotted by neither of them in non-damage maps.
If you have average gear and average build, then i dont' believe you're getting oneshotted, only exception is vaal burining arrow exile at shotgun range
haven't read the tale of sarah the self found summoner. at least average gear and overleveled.
one-shot FROM OFF SCREEN.
so you are demonstrably wrong.
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Posted byplasticeyes#2789on Apr 10, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
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Mahesys wrote:
To people who're getting oneshotted both by invasion bosses or new exiles: post your build and gear. An average player CAN'T be oneshotted by neither of them in non-damage maps.
If you have average gear and average build, then i dont' believe you're getting oneshotted, only exception is vaal burining arrow exile at shotgun range
You're again, nitpicking.
People die before they can even react, off screen etc.
It doesn't have to be a one-shot, 2+ hits under a second is still considered a horrible difficulty design.
It's all basing around the log-out mentality, which is sad.
no it's based off of poor design.
do you really think that GGG has your pressing alt-f4 in mind when they design these things ?
no, they just don't properly test them against reasonable builds.
i mean really - it's so hard to minimally test something to figure out if it can 1-shot you from off-screen ?
no it's not- so either it's not being tested or that's the way the want it.
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Posted byplasticeyes#2789on Apr 10, 2014, 11:37:17 AM
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Is Minara Anemina a joke?? Seriously. I have a Reaver Duelist w/ 3500 hp and max resists (76%) with a topaz flask and she wiped me 5 times without even needing her fucking minions...her arc did 3400+ dmg to me every time. Even after I threw up curse immune and a topaz flask, she WRECKED me.
I am all for challenging, but some of the exiles are stupidly easy and some of them are stupidly hard. I have never even come remotely close to killing Igna Phoenix with any char, either, and I fail to see how a fight like this is challenging when I'm dead before I can even approach her wall of minions. Incredibly frustrating.
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Posted bydeception01#4644on Apr 23, 2014, 11:52:06 PM
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plasticeyes wrote:
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Mahesys wrote:
To people who're getting oneshotted both by invasion bosses or new exiles: post your build and gear. An average player CAN'T be oneshotted by neither of them in non-damage maps.
If you have average gear and average build, then i dont' believe you're getting oneshotted, only exception is vaal burining arrow exile at shotgun range
haven't read the tale of sarah the self found summoner. at least average gear and overleveled.
one-shot FROM OFF SCREEN.
so you are demonstrably wrong.
I can react in time to any invasion boss even in double damage maps and flee from them without loggin out. Last one was vaal metalsmith from which i leap slammed the fuck out, i have average gear. So you're demonstrably wrong too
1-1 kickoff
After nerfs you have all the time to flee or logout to all invasion bosses, there are no excuses now. Just pay attention and have 75 all res. It's all you need to stay alive
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Posted byMahesys#6567on Apr 24, 2014, 4:33:38 AM
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deception01 wrote:
Is Minara Anemina a joke?? Seriously. I have a Reaver Duelist w/ 3500 hp and max resists (76%) with a topaz flask and she wiped me 5 times without even needing her fucking minions...her arc did 3400+ dmg to me every time. Even after I threw up curse immune and a topaz flask, she WRECKED me.
I am all for challenging, but some of the exiles are stupidly easy and some of them are stupidly hard. I have never even come remotely close to killing Igna Phoenix with any char, either, and I fail to see how a fight like this is challenging when I'm dead before I can even approach her wall of minions. Incredibly frustrating.
no way arc was doing that much, its her minion instability thats the problem
R.I.P. my beloved P.o.E. Last edited by ampdecay#1924 on Apr 24, 2014, 6:45:56 AM
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Posted byampdecay#1924on Apr 24, 2014, 6:45:00 AM
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deception01 wrote:
Is Minara Anemina a joke?? Seriously. I have a Reaver Duelist w/ 3500 hp and max resists (76%) with a topaz flask and she wiped me 5 times without even needing her fucking minions...her arc did 3400+ dmg to me every time. Even after I threw up curse immune and a topaz flask, she WRECKED me.
I am all for challenging, but some of the exiles are stupidly easy and some of them are stupidly hard. I have never even come remotely close to killing Igna Phoenix with any char, either, and I fail to see how a fight like this is challenging when I'm dead before I can even approach her wall of minions. Incredibly frustrating.
no way arc was doing that much, its her minion instability thats the problem
I haven't killed any of her minions...I just ran into her again this morning and had the same result before I just avoided her all together. Curse immuned + topaz + evasion flask + 81% resist + 3500 hp = MELTED. Instantly. I never even had a chance to use a health flask. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Posted bydeception01#4644on Apr 24, 2014, 11:41:18 AM
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I haven't killed any of her minions...I just ran into her again this morning and had the same result before I just avoided her all together. Curse immuned + topaz + evasion flask + 81% resist + 3500 hp = MELTED. Instantly. I never even had a chance to use a health flask. Absolutely ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is your claim. At your claimed 91 res she won't even do 100 lightning damage. You're claiming her arc can do 3500 damage in one hit through 91 lightning res?.. As if.
I faced her since the patch twice. First time she died before summoning anything due to her low HP. Second time I faced her in a minus max map and her damage was still mediocre and her arc did nothing.
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Posted bykasub#2910on Apr 24, 2014, 4:03:26 PM
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I haven't killed any of her minions...I just ran into her again this morning and had the same result before I just avoided her all together. Curse immuned + topaz + evasion flask + 81% resist + 3500 hp = MELTED. Instantly. I never even had a chance to use a health flask. Absolutely ridiculous.
What's ridiculous is your claim. At your claimed 91 res she won't even do 100 lightning damage. You're claiming her arc can do 3500 damage in one hit through 91 lightning res?.. As if.
I faced her since the patch twice. First time she died before summoning anything due to her low HP. Second time I faced her in a minus max map and her damage was still mediocre and her arc did nothing.
91 resist? I had 81.
If it isn't her arc, something is spiking damage around 3000 for me. It's not like there is a combat log (right?) I can check to see what spells are destroying me. All I know is, I have run on to her 6 times now and did not even come remotely close to killing her. Nearly every other rogue exile poses no threat to me in my char's current state, except for her and Igna who have repeatedly destroyed me across a number of characters.
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Posted bydeception01#4644on Apr 24, 2014, 4:10:33 PM
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You said topaz + 81 res which made me assume you had 91 at the time she hit you.
It's probably her minion instability then. The only other decent damage source is her zombies which are not too impressive.
If you're a melee build don't destroy all her minions around you at once. Single target her if you can or kill them more slowly. For a ranged build she is quite easy as long as you don't decide to hug all her minions.
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Posted bykasub#2910on Apr 24, 2014, 4:31:02 PM
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You said topaz + 81 res which made me assume you had 91 at the time she hit you.
It's probably her minion instability then. The only other decent damage source is her zombies which are not too impressive.
If you're a melee build don't destroy all her minions around you at once. Single target her if you can or kill them more slowly. For a ranged build she is quite easy as long as you don't decide to hug all her minions.
Apologies, I realize how that could be misleading in my wording. I actually had 76& + 10% topaz = 86%. A majority of my deaths were as I was attempting to flee @ about 1500hp so I am really not sure how instability could get me. When she summons 2 skeles, the old skeles dying doesn't cause instability does it?
Regardless, I'll try stacking a ruby flask and single targeting her.
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Posted bydeception01#4644on Apr 24, 2014, 5:51:31 PM
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