I'm Unhappy I Put As Much Money As I Did In This Game

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mats_mono wrote:

Thing is, I think it is the way it should be. As a casual gamer, I don't expect to be running around with a BoR and a Soultaker just because those really devoted gamers are. If you were sure to see those drop in every single game... what is the point even striving for them? Where is the challenge? I was realy happy when I found a near perfect pair of Maligaro's gloves early in the season. If they were sure to drop, the joy of finding them would be much less.

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Ivpiv wrote:

People really need to stop whining about getting one shot in hardcore, go play some ambush while you wait for balancing..

And focus on the real issues, the issues that has been a plague on POE since the get go, and GGG since to refuse to fix..

Desync, i am sorry GGG but this is alpha omega, you cannot make a game where you continuosly nerf survivability because "you want us to avoid dmg rather than tank it" and not fix Desync.

I know when you test stuff on your zero desyncing, zero lag test servers things might seem nice and all, but on the real servers it is downright impossible to dodge half the abilities.

Combined with the new shoddy targetting bugs that basic makes your character throw totems, traps wherever it pleases, really takes away from emersion and actual control of your Character.


Either you make this game easy, or you fix desync, it is the only 2 choices you have. It is'nt right that such a huge percentage of HC deaths is due to Desync, it is insane. I mean half of all the streamers deaths are desync related, that ofcourse is my estimate but still.. Pohx was talking about only ever dying 3 times on HC 1 due to desync, 1 due to BSOD and for the first time, he actually died because he made a mistake.

There has been people on reddit and the like who knows alot about game engine design and game design in general who has made their input on the subject, and put it out there , that this amount of desyncing is avoidable if the will was there.

Either you allow us to play in small local hosted instances, or you fix the system you have now, or you start reverting some of the survivability nerfs we have been seeing..

The latest HP nerf is horrible.

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shoju wrote:

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I don't have forum titles. I don't have pets. I don't have a lot of other things.

What I do have, is an account for myself, and an account for my son. We have ~50 stash tabs between us, a few armor skin transfers, and a few spell effect mxt's. All told, I've spent about $150 bucks on the game for the two of us to play.

And I echo the sentiments of those who have spent more, and feel unhappy. My son, has all but stopped playing. He did so right around launch. He just got frustrated with the way things were working for his playstyle.

And I'm getting to that point. Now, I will say, that some of my unhappiness, is based on aRPG style as a whole, and not just POE.

RNG:
There is far too much RNG for me to feel like the game can be played 100% self found.

The very fact that these gloves can exist is a failing of a system IMO. These gloves are ilvl60+ Wool Gloves. I'm fairly confident that they were 66+, from a boss in a map, but I don't remember. I've held onto them for so long, staring at them, hating them. Why, I lost out on a possible upgrade to my character, so that the very base model of ES gloves could drop from my boss, is just beyond me. If we are going to see caps on things like Monster must be level X to see a Koam's, Shav's, Voltaxic, etc... There should be a cap on things like this. level 60+ monsters should not be dropping crap that you pick up in the very first zone of the game. Especially not as a rare.

I've heard it before "But what about the uniques!?!?!?!?!?!?" FIne. Let them drop them as uniques. I don't care. But, there is no joy, no fullfillment, from looting a level 1 pair of rare ES gloves from a Merciless Boss. That's crap.

But, the RNG doesn't just stop at loot drops. It's in the "crafting" system. Which, is not a crafting system. Vendor Recipes, is as close to crafting as this gets. Everything else, is a giant slot machine, that you put various values of currency into, spin the handle, and hope that you don't screw up.

I recently posted about an ilvl 77 Vaal Regalia that I spent 2k Fusings trying to 6L, before I vendored it, and deleted the character. That's not fun. That wasn't fun. I didn't vendor something I spent time to get, because I was having fun. I was pissed. ANd the only way I was going to stop being pissed, was to get rid of the item, and the character. Vendoring + Delete was the (albeit extreme) way to deal with stopping myself from doing something that wasn't fun.

And then, If I would have got the thing 6L'd? Well.... Then I get to spend lord knows how many alts to get rolls, and then eternal, and regal, and nope, that didn't work, restore the imprint, and re-eternal, and regal, and on and on and on and on and on.

That isn't fun. The shear amount of RNG invovled in even getting a USABLE piece, like.....

That's not a bad piece. It's not amazing though. It's tri-resist, but not top tier rolls. It's got "some" bonus ES to it, but certainly not "a lot". It's a very mediocre to "ok" piece. But the RNG? Let's not talk about how hard I tried to make something good out of it, only to get mediocrity.

The Patch 1.1 Passive skill tree.
This is my personal opinion. It's the worst skill tree that's been pushed since I started playing the game. It highlights several problems.

1.) There is no "value system" in determining what you get for a passive point. Or, conversely, if there is a value system, the values are woefully skewed, at least from this side of the looking glass. You can easily verify this, by taking a look at the marauder, scion, and ranger starting area. You get, vastly differing values from a single passive point, in regards to life, based solely on where you are.

The marauder gets 6% HP, and 6% armor.
The Scion is offered, just 6% HP,
The Ranger, offered 6% Eva, and just 4% Health.

This is exacerbated further when you look at other classes starting areas, and their life offerings.

2.) There is a problem with balance between weapon choices. When the decision was announced that there was going to be a rework in the passives in the marauder area, and the area below them, next to duelist, I thought that it was going to be to address some of the imbalances regarding weapon specializations. In Domination, Swords ruled the roost in terms of quality passives to invest, as well as number. Maces, were less represented, but had solid nodes, due to the the inclusion of a cluster that included life, as well as 2 clusters that included armor. While there were less nodes, they were, from a DPS / Survivability standpoint, a good 2nd choice. Axes, were third and Staves... WEll... I don't think much of the staff clusters to put it politely.

I thought, that the rework of the lower area, would be to balance them out. Unfortunately, what we have seen, is that the pecking order, has been further defined. Swords, rule the roost. They have tons of good, quality nodes, ranging from the Marauder area, all the way over to the Shadow area. Swords are every where, and the nodes, are generally high quality.

The one node, that offered Mace + Life is gone, kicked to the curb, in favor of a dual mace / staff cluster, which, while offering superior damage, offers nothing in terms of the life / damage nodes. Axes, got a slight buff, as they were integrated with Swords nodes, in a spot or two, meaning that the pecking order is now,

Swords - by a large, clear margin
Axes
Maces
Staves.

3.) The Scion area nerf. While it's understandable that something needed to be done to the scion area, gutting it's passive quality just didn't cut it, on top of reducing nodes. While a case can be made that they are still "the best" clusters, it comes in terms of density, not quality.

4.) Elemental Weapon Damage builds. It's a pet peeve of mine, probably because my son stopped playing the game. If you wanted to play "Elemental Melee" you really have a dearth of options. There are woefully few nodes that are weapon elemental damage nodes. There are 2 spots in the tree that offer elemental damage as a blanket effect, but it's still hard to craft a tree for someone who wanted to play an ele weapon build, and have a good time in doing so.

5.) Iron Reflexes + Grace. We saw, in terms of the 1 week league, that this was, an incredibly popular combination. My problem with this combination, is that in general terms, one keystone, makes another defensive stat better at being armor, than armor is at being armor.

Now, I'm not saying armor is amazing. Because when you need it most, it still doesn't matter unless you have the granite to couple with it. But, when you look at CI, and Acrobatics, the two nodes that are most similar in function to IR, the other two both have tangible side effects of the choice. This is not the case with Iron Reflexes. There is no tangible side effect to it. You can't evade enemy attacks, is not a tangible side effect comapred on the options that are presented to you by taking the keystone.

Patch 1.1 - Corrupted areas.
My first encounter with a corrupted area post 1.1 was in Ambush League, right after killing Fire Fury. I was, to quote a famous bad guy from another MMO style game, "Not Prepared". There are legitimate balance issues present within these zones. While I understand that they should be more difficult than the zone they spawn in, the level of difficulty of these bosses does not scale proportionately with level, and zone difficulty.

Patch 1.1 - Vaal Gems
They just... Well... the implementation is just lackluster. I have toyed around with several of them that I have found, trying to figure out what is, and isn't interesting. Vaal Double Strike? Pretty cool. Vaal Molten Shell? Again, pretty cool. Vaal Ground Slam? Meh. Vaal Lightning Warp? No. They are just so random, that they boggle the mind on if they are good or not.

I am the Guild Leader of <Lurkers> I have been running the POE related news on our guild site since release of the game, and I just can't bring myself to do a news post about the patch. It's my perception of the changes that is keeping me from it. Normally, I link the patch notes, give some commentary, talk about the cool features, talk about the uniques.

But I just can't bring myself to do it with 1.1 The patch has been, a monumental letdown to me, as an individual. While I think that Ambush is a very interesting idea, I have no cool "OMG that loot box was amazing!" stories. I have no "oh man! that was an epic corrupted area!" story. I have no "This change to the passive tree made sense" commentary to give.

And it's hurting my desire to continue to play the game. I dealt with the RNG of a lot of thins in game, and kept buying stash tabs, because there were definitely parts of the game that I found truly enjoyable. I was enjoying the prospect of having my first level 90 character. I was enjoying the prospect of running higher level maps. I was enjoying the prospect of messing around in the new league. But all of that, has taken a back seat, to the patch, and the changes that have accompanied it, that have made the game less enjoyable for me.

I'm glad that I didn't purchase any supporter packs at this point. I'm glad that I didn't end up with tangible merchandise, or a soundtrack. Because at this point, I'm not sure if I'm going to continue for much longer. The game has just become less enjoyable since the patch, and I'm just not sure if that lack of enjoyment, coupled with the RNG that I already didn't care for, are overshadowed by the fun that I "can" have in game.

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omniscientblue wrote:

Yikes, especially for a free to play game.

Anyways, just hopping in here and saying I absolutely love the new invasion league. The thrill of playing a league that seems significantly different then the rest, not just HC 3.0. I was extremely impressed, it broke my Standard shell, the chains. My friends and I play invasion solely now, since progression actually has meaning...surviving instead of loot is ample reward in this league. Again, great work.

Cannot wait for Cutthroat Leagues, super pumped. I really feel this is what PoE needs, more diversity in leagues. I see invasion as survival progression, ambush lewts, and Cutthroat PvP. That diversity really keeps the game interesting, especially when these are opt in leagues and not static changes to existing leagues. Again, great work.

Stick to your design philosophy. Do not be swayed by vocal minorities. You got this far for a reason, you are doing an amazing job.

To everyone else, one gripe I have in this thread is the entitlement of purchasing supporter packs or coins, and then having a problem with future developments. Shame on them. Obviously they cannot handle spending their own money. This is not investing or gambling. Purchasing coins or supporter packs is not a Dev time share for Fing sake. It is shameful really. No class, no class.

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omniscientblue wrote:

Yikes, especially for a free to play game.

Stick to your design philosophy. Do not be swayed by vocal minorities. You got this far for a reason, you are doing an amazing job.