[1-2.0] CoC Sci/Sha/Ran/Due with Block - Song of Ice and Fire. Cheap. Fun. Nerfed

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JakeAlmighty wrote:

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Simplexity99 wrote:

I don't have enlighten so I guess I get to use 6 slots :P would say that having two cwdt setups is required ? or can you get away with just the level 1 cwdt setup or is the leveled version better I have two i just don't know if I want to spend the chromes on my rat's nest to try and get another cwdt gem setup, and I've already got ( CWDT + EC + IC + Frost Wall ) I I felt that molten armor is pretty much useless since I have acrobatics.

While you don't explicitly NEED two CwDT setups I do think it's a very good idea - what it allows you to do is to separate your EC from your Immortal call - you're more likely to get Immortal Call with actual charges on you to increase the duration. It also allows you to level your Immortal Call because it will be tied to the lvled CwDT whereas we want the EC tied to the lvl1 one so it triggers as often as possible.

I do agree though that Molten Shell is completely unnecessary and don't run it myself anymore.


ie I keep mine set up like this

As you can see I'm using two green slots in the links that do NOT trigger - the EK is their for use as a manual switch for reflect groups if necessary (or you can swap it into the GMP/COC chain for reflect maps) and does not get cast when the CwDT triggers. The Smoke Mine in the lvled CwDT also does not trigger, I just use that for opening Strongboxes or quick escapes from diving into crazy spots. (aka before you dive headfirst into a dangerous looking room, just drop it and be safe)


Sidenote: After discussion with Sunnyray last week I keep either a Vaal Detonate Dead or a DD on my offhand setups for switching in when it counters something - comes in really handy in something like this -

Hope this helps.

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The damage in your video seems pretty good when you're solo, but how is it in parties? Because I've played a few builds now that were close to useless in parties and I was not a big fan of that.

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lordchopf wrote:

how does lmp fare in comparison to gmp? (my gmp is to high lv, just kinda interessted on what i might be missing out)

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Levito wrote:

Fantastic Guide, currently leveling a 58 shadow.

My question is, besides the obvious cost (currency) issues, why not Thief's Torment?

When running a TT you save 5 or so points spent on mana regen. Now, you're going to turn around and spend those points right back making up health rolls, or fixing your res (unless you're really rich and can afford tri-res on your remaining slots) - but you gain superior sustain with it, and very fluid gameplay.

Now, I haven't tested an LL so far, but frankly I don't want to dedicate a gem slot to LL; not to mention rolling BBBGGR on an end-game eva chest will probably be a pain in the behind - and you still have whatever mana issues might exist. Mana issues that left the template build running CW on BM in a no leech build... seems kinda... I dunno.

You can ditch clarity with a TT and possibly grab an extra aura that way as well.

So can Thief's Torment be made to work, or do you think it's strictly a mid game luxury?

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Why no Doom Cast?