What this Passive-Reset Proves.
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Dude. Just go play something else. Or see a psychiatrist; you must be nuts typing up these long freaking posts on something which the majority of the targeted player base views as a non-issue.
Online (out of game) resources are a big part of the PC gaming culture. Player guides and tools are not going anywhere. Don't want to use them? Then don't, you can instead - join a guild - socialize - discuss build/class approaches in-game. Don't want to do any of this? Then you've completely defeated the point of an online gaming community. There's plenty of us who still enjoy the learning curve of trial and error. This game does not need what you're asking for. Like, at all. I suppose I should add that I'm very much a casual player and have indeed experienced the dismay of a shit character build being new to the game. Last edited by larkstongue#3937 on Mar 6, 2014, 9:26:09 PM
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This game is designed to be a giant time sink, don't hope they will make things easier. Not only the more time and effort you spend into the game the more likely you are to spend money on it, but also you are to defend it. It's a normal psychological reaction, avoid the brain to feel uncomfortable for taking possibly suboptimal choices. It's how any brand ends with giant hordes of fanboys despite doing things horribly.
Devs don't try to optimize fun, because fun means easy-come easy-go players. They try to maximize time investment. Not to say there is zero fun in this game, but devs clearly have other priorities in mind. It's not like they are making mystery of it anyway. When one of the devs proclaims economy in the game is their first priority, it means gameplay only comes after. Last edited by SmilingCat#6681 on Mar 6, 2014, 9:46:49 PM
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" I said Diablo 3 because of the fact that even though you might make a mistake and spend a paragon point where you don't want to or mess up on a skill/rune load out. You have free and infinite respecs that you can use to fix it. So seconds later you can fix your build and paragon points. Which almost makes it error free that is why I mentioned it. Like you do not like making mistakes. I guess it is because you think that will make you look stupid. But tell me how can you look stupid when you are either new to the game or the passive tree. You are just lazy and do not want to put in the effort. You want everything given to you on a silver platter. Where GGG puts in so many tools that you can easily optimize your build. Heck I guess you are so lazy that you would even want them to make the build for you. Well now if you have a blind man leading another blind man both fall into a pit right. So how can one copy from another if the original did not do the math and actually theorycraft it to the point where it is truly optimal for the job it is designed to do. So I guess then if someone was to help you out with gear by giving it to you because they want to then you would not say that helping out other players is not a kind thing to do huh. Because that is exactly what others have done when they make those third party sites. They show their love for the game and other players because they have taken the time to do the math, that is if they do it right. The time to do the testing, again if they done it right. So the ones that have the optimal builds to copy are the ones that no doubt have taken the time to figure out how to optimize the build. Builds like that just do not fall out of the sky. They just do not happen by chance. Wikis also lower the traffic to the website. I use the wiki for a variety of things. But you know what you do not have to do that at all. Just keep on going the way you are right now. Although I would suggest you take one of your failed builds and go to the class forums and look for a build that is close to the one you tried to make then see why it went wrong then you will learn how to make a better build for the next time. Instead of spending time here QQ'ing you should be using it to learn where you went wrong. Also accept that your first few builds will fail due to the sheer size of the passive skill tree and not knowing all of the important stats. |
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" So I see you want something where it is impossible to fail. I guess you want that in real life huh. Well life is not fair and so it goes for this game. Failure is how we learn things. Many of us have to learn from the school of hard knocks (no in game reference intended). Maybe you are looking for D3's free and infinite Johnny on the Spot respec system. Since you say that players that use them have an unfair advantage. Mind showing me where you have to be a member of a top secret society in order to gain access to those tools. Also using the tree at this website I have figured out a build that should be a decent one. Now that I understand the basics of a good build I am sure that I can make my own only using what is here on the website. Having the ability to use the passive skill tree out of the game really helps to plan out a build. To make it even more challenging I am playing in the new ambush league. Oh one more thing, this is my first time playing in a league. " You just do not want to do the work and do some research outside of the game like all other players that want to optimize their character. Do you think that it is easy to figure out what is better 10% boost to physical damage for a ground slam marauder or 4% attack speed? Is faster attacks better than added fire damage? To optimize for max damage someone had to do the math that just does not happen by accident like you seem to believe. Oh and Dark Souls series is a good analogy because it is a game with a long learning curve similar to the skill tree in this game. |
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DoomCarpace, How can you say it is impossible to fail? Do you think it is so trivial to put points? It's more of a joke for you people because you can use the tools spamming, but yesterday, after the patch hit, i stayed in the game, spent 5 hours on the Tree with each character, That's TEN FUCKING HOURS OF PLANNING. What do YOU GUYS DO? Sit there on the tool and boom boom boom done, go around, boom boom, info collected, boom all ready set to go in there and act all high and mighty. And the final build i came up with both guys only gave me about 30% increase in dmg on my Scion(maybe that's from the +2Passive points i got later and put 2X 16% spell dmg), And my Shadow's condition only changed from dps to lower dps, and just a little more resist and hp Regen, My Flicker and Dual Actually do less dmg now lol,). So This would jut happen on a daily basis.
If they make resets available, even if weekly ones: Im at 60, i go in fight mobs at merciless, realise build's not good, have 1 reset available this week, spend 5 hours making a build on my own, and even that turns out to be bad, lets assume. I Will Spend a Whole Week Getting Fucked non-stop because my build is too bad, but i know a reset is available next week, and i can reset it and try another build by learning from this week's mistakes. What you people do right now : You are at lv 60, fighting mobs at merciless, realise your builds not good/efficient either, but you know full reset is not a logical option, so you try a few times, and realise, No, this is not gonna work, i'll keep losing xp and never progress(unless group grind 247), so you log out with that character, transfer all items, everything of value to stash, Make new character, Play a day or three on easy mode, Party hopping and raping portals and Waypoints, have all the good gear from last time, and a Better Skill tree, And Good Calculations and future predictions with all the fancy tewwwls. I have also done it, i am not new to this game and neither were the other 5 people i did it with,lel. This is perspective. This is what you are missing and denying. Think about it. It will save us running in circles. |
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Oooh and about the Second bit, DoomCarpace.
Please, why don't you acknowledge the fact that There is no physical or non-physical evidence of challenge or difficulty in searching the forums and fidgeting/raping the poe tools. The simple and undisputable thing is: To find the impact of the same "10%+physical dmg or 4+% atk speed, You would alt tab, and come back with the answer 20 minutes later if not 2, i will be sweating my balls off and maybe take something i won't realise till the dick is half way up me anus lel. The thing is By Doing these apparently mandatory researches, people are(oh this is big)-->>>>> ACTIVELY AND KNOWINGLY SEARCHING FOR AN EASIER SOLUTION TO THEIR SKILL PLACING/ITEMIZATION/ANY OTHER PREDICAMENT BY LOOKING FOR OTHER PEOPLE'S ANSWERS AND THEORIES, REDUCING THE CHALLENGE IN THE PROCESS & THEN TELLING ME THAT A RESET MECHANIC IS GONNA DULL THEIR GAME, WHEN THEY HAVE BEEN, EVERY SINGLE TIME THEY PLAYED, BEEN PLAYING SOMETHING THAT THEY MADE EASIER FOR THEMSELVES BY ELIMINATING/REDUCING/CUTTING THE RISK OF FUCKING UP WITHOUT EVEN PAYING AN EVEN PRICE. . . Then i am called the one who wants it all easy, simply because of their blind-side. v; Wake up, people ;v |
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" I would prefer the game to be twice as hard, if it meant taking away half the grind and time wasted farming. Isn't this how the saying goes; "It isn't the hours we played But the Times we died" ? I think it's something like that.. And you are right, the only reason everything is as it is, the rates are low on drops, so people keep grinding(I Do NOT think that just because you kill dominus 30 times and get the item you were looking for, you've -earned- it, when another guy can get it on the first try, and another guy never getting it, same goes for gems its all very cleverly planned, orbs come at hefty prices, Linking/colouring/socketting is ridiculously low and often can round you back to 1 socket of the unwanted colour after 100 tries, all of it is simply because someone up there wants it to be like this :D. It is in it's rawest form, a Business, The gameplay, the story,etc. all come later, and true, more time played does mean more money, But so can more difficulty :D, Think about all the people like me who got annoyed of the block they have put, which keep people from the real game for a long time, (200 hrs in my case), Which makes people like me again, not buy stuff, because again, there are questions of "worth it?" or "how long will i even play this" or " Should i just not bother since they are deliberetly doing this?", but then again, we are just speculators, and i personally am just here, watching what turn it takes, and whether i stick to it :B |
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I Can also Sense a little Idea that most people have right now.
One part of it being ;"Resets = instant perfect builds everybody = no challenge = no fun. If someone thinks like this >> Are you serious?( to start off, many people copy op builds as we speak so that's not a solved problem in the first place). Secondly, Look back at everytime you clicked reset on the tools that you use, to calculate your optimal build in safe tool mode. Each one of those 'reset clicks' Would be me going in to a dungeon, Dying multiples of times, losing a level, then resetting my tree, then re-putting points With slight alterations and going in again, and dying and dying, not just making a new character and playing trivial land. Here's a good example what a majority of this great "always making unique builds everyone because perfect system" game's People will look at and copy without second thought, because it has "OOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP" Sprayed all over it : http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/599443, I haven't read a single bit of that thread, i just googled " Most Copied Builds on Path of Exile" and this was the first or second page and copy pasted it here to show you HOW FUCKING EASILY I CAN BECOME POE GOD, I HAVE TO SPEND 10 SECONDS TYPING AND FINDING A PAGE, another 2 minutes LOGGING IN, and another 1 MINUTE APPLYING THE BUILD. WOW GUYS, THE THING YOU DEFEND, IT CREATES SUCH A "UNIQUE PLAYER ENVIRONMENT" When in reality every other guy will have "Referenced" their build from another person. GGG, WP. Pls, Refute me, Pls do it. i wanna see it happen. |
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" Neither does it need blind people like you. The point is not "Me not wanting to use those Tools", It's "People here pretending like nothing becomes easier by using those tools, when that's the very fucking reason everyone uses them lol". You know how some people get used to it, some people change it, we're those people. You know which one you are. Your apathy does not interest me. But i don't hate people for it, It's human nature to surround yourself with things that strengthen your belief, whether it be true or not, doesn't really matter. And nice advice on having me go see a shrink, i could really talk to him/her about the shallow people in this world and what to do wif em |
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