What this Passive-Reset Proves.

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allionus wrote:
DoomCarpace, i am gonna stop replying to you now, you either just don't pay attention while responding, or fail to see the context, every time.

Oh yeah, you guys are totally right!! OH YES!!!! Yessss, Its OBVIOUSLY THE NEW PLAYER'S FAULT for getting ripped off by the MORE EXPERIENCED PLAYERS LIKE YOURSELF. OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY DIDN'T WANNA GET RIPPED OFF ON THEIR FIRST DAY PLAYING THE GAME, THEY SHOULD HAVE SPENT THE TIME FIRST FINDING OUT ABOUT IT, BEFORE TRUSTING SOMEONE IN THE GAME FOR A PRICE, YEAH OBVIOUSLY, HAHA, YOU ARE RIGHT !!! SORRY I ARGUED WITH YOUR GREAT LOGIC, xoxoxoxo, sorry i didn't realise how right you were.

OH And i didn't Even Relaise that a game Can't even Control it's own economy by changing drop rates and roll rates releasing new currencies, OK, Now i know, thanks to you, THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY EYES <3 <3 <3!!!!

Also, Just to prove a point to you, i would go and buy several Dollars worth of random items and go flaunt it to GGG, just so they could "ban" me Like they have banned thousands of players for buying items there for spending money on a game i am contemplating never looking back at, but i think i should just save this money for dark souls, a game that i will actually spend more than 0$ on, unlike PoE, which doesn't deserve it.
Maybe next time <3 <3 <3 :D :D xoxoxoxo.

Thanks for also telling me that i am a teenager who got his parent's permission to make this account :D :D :D, really nice people here on the forums, telling me about myself :D :D, such nice chaps :D :D xoxoxo!


ooooh and i would also like to thank you for showing me that the current passive tree Successfully stops Everyone from using FOTMS, B2W Shops,Copying Builds from other people who currently post them, quitting the game due to dragginess, Exploiting inexperienced players, Creating huge gaps between the knowledge levels and the number of times that one will replay for someone who does research one the first day or someone who just wants to play the game .

I HAVE LEARNT SO MUCH FROM YOU, THANK YOU !!! MY EYES ARE OPENED TO THIS PERFECT GAME THAT NEEDS NO CHANGES <3 !!! ALL HAIL GGG! <3 <3 XOXOXOXOOXXOOXOX!!!!!! pce


So it is the scammers fault and the blame rests entirely on them. So there is nothing wrong with putting full faith that gamers will be the pillars of honesty. Where none of them would ever lie huh. So you think that even in the real world that the victims of con men are not to blame for falling for the con.

Take phishing so the one sending the phishing emails are the ones to blame for players giving them their account info huh. So that means that a player can be ignorant of how they work. They can remain ignorant of how the company works. Then fall for such things and not take any blame at all. I guess you never heard of such things as buyer beware. Or the ever popular. If something sounds too good to be true usually it is. People that are victims can take steps to lower their odds of being taken by such people and the same is true in a game. Do not expect sympathy from any crowd of gamers if you are ever ripped off or scammed in anyway. Because they will say why didn't you take the simple steps or even use common sense to avoid such things.

Next you talked about GGG setting prices not controlling them. And you said it in a way where there would be a board that would tell a player just how much an item is worth. How else can GGG do that if they are not setting the prices. Which in turn would mean players would have to go by that price or others would get angry at GGG. Which in turn makes it a GGG driven economy. The only thing that they can do is control the drops where certain items that they would like to see go for more drop less so they would go for more. But they could not take an item and physically set a price of 10 exalts when it really goes for 10 chaos. Not without doing the above.

Next you talk about GGG not banning anyone due to buying items for real money. They are no doubt like all other game companies that will not tell you who they ban and why they banned them. Account actions are done in secret and they might take a tip from Blizz and post ban waves to make sure that the players know that they do not tolerate such actions. In fact in this regard you went over the top and said that GGG actually allows it and profits from it. Doing so without a shred of proof.

The reason why I say teenager is because you sound like someone that is young or just did not learn much from school and life itself. And the way you have been talking in the majority of your posts and the OP also is more like a teenaged spoiled brat where mom and pop have allowed Jr. to take full control over them.

How can a passive skill tree prevent rmt? How can the passive tree prevent players from scamming others? How does it control players that decide not to do anything more than just log in and play? I guess you will try to tell me that it has complete control over all others systems in the game. It has full control over the drop rates, quality of drops, the boss fights and how they turn out for your character. It controls how powerful each skill is per level also controlling the very fabric of the way support skills work. Tell me how one feature can do all of that then you will have a point.

To make a long story short you just do not want to admit that you are wrong and move on. Which is common among those that are young, proud or a little of both. You must learn to swallow your pride and admit when you are wrong if you want to make any real progress and get others to accept your ideas. Btw your once a week respec is still a bad idea regardless of how you look at it.

Due to what I already said before. Without the permanence that is here there will be no meaningful choices and you might as well just get rid of all refund points and regret orbs because they would have zero uses in the game.

Be honest for once you just hate re-rolling because you think it will make you look like a noob or a dumb player. Sorry it will only mean you are a human being capable of making mistakes like everyone else.
So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ? That is your logic.

Once again, thanks for opening my eyes about how re rolling will make me look like a noob because its the hardest thing to do and if you do it, you become a man, thanks, i'll keep that in mind, along with all the interesting things you have taught me, senpai-sama.
Last edited by allionus#2044 on Mar 9, 2014, 11:01:55 AM
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So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ?


Man, this topic escalated quickly...
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kasub wrote:
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So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ?


Man, this topic escalated quickly...


You did not see the part where i go to prison and get fakd up haha and the one where someone murders me when they didn't like what i said hehuehu >:O, someone wrote that, but of course ich bin ze bad gai :D
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allionus wrote:
So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ? That is your logic.

Once again, thanks for opening my eyes about how re rolling will make me look like a noob because its the hardest thing to do and if you do it, you become a man, thanks, i'll keep that in mind, along with all the interesting things you have taught me, senpai-sama.


Players need to do what they can to avoid being scammed or phished in a game. Failure to do so is just throwing caution to the wind and asking for trouble. The way this world is if a person can get away with something and it doesn't bother their conscious then it is okay for them to do it. Regardless if it is breaking any rules.

Even girls like guys have to be careful and choose when they can get smashed and when it is best to stay sober. Using common sense will get you out of a potential problem. In some cases common sense can even help tell you when something will happen even before it does happen.
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kasub wrote:
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So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ?


Man, this topic escalated quickly...


Look he is the type that cannot admit when he is wrong. He even has said so in this thread. He has said that he just will not listen to opposing views even if it does prove him wrong. That is insane. He was already told his once a week respec would mean that this game would have zero meaningful choices.

He has even said that the tools that others are using outside of the game give them the perfect optimized build in a few clicks. Where they do not have to worry about failing. Well unless you copy and paste it will not happen. Also he seems to think that those that have came up with their own builds did not have to go through the process of failing and re-rolling till they got it right.

He is of the mind that he wants all of the benefits of finding your own build without having to go the same route the rest of the players did. He wants it where he is able to plan a build that when he builds the character he will not make any mistakes. He will not fail at making his own build on the first few tries.

I have no doubt that many if not all of the players here that have their own builds had to fail the first few tries at least. Even if you are a top theorycrafter from another game.

Like a spoiled brat he keeps saying that he is right and everyone else is wrong. Doubt me then take a long look at some of his posts throughout this thread and you can see what I mean. He needs to swallow his pride, admit he is wrong and move on.

Heck he would probably try to convince you that everyone playing this game including you have bought items for real money using one of the third party websites since he says that you must use them. Like the trading in this game is not good enough without using a RMT website. He has even said that GGG allows it and profits from it. All without a shred of proof. But yet again if you doubt me then go back and read some of his earlier posts.
While some of you are on the subject, anyone know of a(n) (outside) tool to count the % of posts made by the OP of this thread... just wondering.

As for allionus, is there any chance that you might, like, not consider playing this game anymore? All of the long-winded, frothing rage surely ought to signify something.
Last edited by Eviathluc#5782 on Mar 10, 2014, 3:19:54 AM
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DoomCarpace wrote:
Part of the problem of new players getting ripped off comes from the player not doing the research in the first place. The info is out there all he has to do is ask for it. Probably better to ask here on the forums instead of looking for it while in game due to the fact that other players would likely take advantage of someone that does not know. Which shows how much dishonesty exists in the game world. Players are not the pillars of honesty.

Getting ripped off in a game is something that can be avoided with a little effort and common sense.

Now how can this truly be a player driven economy if GGG puts a selling price on an item's tool tip. That would make it an GGG driven economy. GGG cannot set prices for the items in the game.

Also you will notice that the one you are replying to did not use any special downloaded program or claim to have got a perfectly optimized build just by making a few clicks here and there.

I think he means for GGG to somehow actively keep track of the average price something is being sold for and to display that value on the tooltip (The value is dynamically updated every 30 - 60 minutes or whatever).
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DoomCarpace wrote:
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allionus wrote:
So basically if i was a girl, and went out drinking with friends like guys do too, do i deserve to get raped just because i got too drunk, lol ? That is your logic.

Once again, thanks for opening my eyes about how re rolling will make me look like a noob because its the hardest thing to do and if you do it, you become a man, thanks, i'll keep that in mind, along with all the interesting things you have taught me, senpai-sama.


Players need to do what they can to avoid being scammed or phished in a game. Failure to do so is just throwing caution to the wind and asking for trouble. The way this world is if a person can get away with something and it doesn't bother their conscious then it is okay for them to do it. Regardless if it is breaking any rules.

Even girls like guys have to be careful and choose when they can get smashed and when it is best to stay sober. Using common sense will get you out of a potential problem. In some cases common sense can even help tell you when something will happen even before it does happen.



So if i ever have a daughter, and she gets raped by someone in a party, i should blame her because it's not the rapists fault, because that's what you told me so you must be right :O, thanks :D xoxo <3 <3.
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Eviathluc wrote:
While some of you are on the subject, anyone know of a(n) (outside) tool to count the % of posts made by the OP of this thread... just wondering.

As for allionus, is there any chance that you might, like, not consider playing this game anymore? All of the long-winded, frothing rage surely ought to signify something.


Yeah, i think if you go to my profile, you can see the total number of posts, divide that by around 60. That's how long it has been since i restarted playing after joining in '12 i think.


As for the second part: http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/fBGWtVOKTkM/maxresdefault.jpg :B
Last edited by allionus#2044 on Mar 10, 2014, 5:42:07 AM

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