Really?? This is a problem....

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CassCE wrote:

Bullshit. An item's value lies in it's usefulness, not in its trade value in some cracker-jack "economy". As such items would still have value (or not) even if all trading were completely disabled. Just like they do now. It's good to know you're so attached to trading that you only value items for what they can get for you, not how you can use them to play the game.

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CassCE wrote:

It's about designing and experimenting with effective builds and killing shit while having fun. What the hell do you think ARPG's are about? Following the cookie cutter build you found online then trading in chat or forums all the damned time to buy the gear to make it work? SUPER FUN HELLS YEAH
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CassCE wrote:

And I'm going to steal a line here. Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others that have been tried.

Capitalism is shit, even though it is the best we have. And this system isn't even capitalistic so... thanks for that completely useless post. I do hope it made you feel better about yourself.[/i]

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CassCE wrote:

Thanks for succinctly demonstrating one of the massive flaws in human psychology. [/i]

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IceM wrote:

Its not even entertaining to play the game when you have almost no hope of finding anything useful. Reminds me of d3 I spent alot on real money on gold to buy gear so I could farm high mps thinking I could find my own shit for a change, it never happened.In the end I did enjoy D3 for longer, but I had real life friends on that game and none here, they tried it and left long ago.

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danisonxtc wrote:

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IceM wrote:

Its not even entertaining to play the game when you have almost no hope of finding anything useful. Reminds me of d3 I spent alot on real money on gold to buy gear so I could farm high mps thinking I could find my own shit for a change, it never happened.In the end I did enjoy D3 for longer, but I had real life friends on that game and none here, they tried it and left long ago.

thats the actual state of the game. you can either make profit or play the game xD

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

Tell me then, what else are ARPG's like POE and D2 about? And if that's not the case, why are kids whining about drop rates?

It's about designing and experimenting with effective builds and killing shit while having fun. What the hell do you think ARPG's are about? Following the cookie cutter build you found online then trading in chat or forums all the damned time to buy the gear to make it work? SUPER FUN HELLS YEAH

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

Like it should be. There needs to be an ecnomomy, without one there is no value to items and when items have no value they don't mean shit and the fun of finding them or owning them is gone. Stop whining or go play a babies game, because really, a 12yr old could understand such a simple fact and work that out for themselves.

Bullshit. An item's value lies in it's usefulness, not in its trade value in some cracker-jack "economy". As such items would still have value (or not) even if all trading were completely disabled. Just like they do now. It's good to know you're so attached to trading that you only value items for what they can get for you, not how you can use them to play the game.

And hell, if the game so desperately needs an economy (it doesn't), just institute league-wide AH's, no buyouts, no reserve. There, no more spammy trade chats and third party websites and forum stores. Problem solved, economy runs smoother than ever.

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Physicalism wrote:

"Really?? This is a problem..."

.. Is exactly what the Average Common Man says when he wakes up in the morning and looks in his wallet at the miniscule currency there then turns on the news and sees Donald Trump bitching about Obamacare....

Welcome to CAPITALISM! [insert bitchslap image here]

Thanks for succinctly demonstrating one of the massive flaws in human psychology.

And I'm going to steal a line here. Capitalism is the worst economic system, except for all the others that have been tried.

Capitalism is shit, even though it is the best we have. And this system isn't even capitalistic so... thanks for that completely useless post. I do hope it made you feel better about yourself.

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jdilly23 wrote:

And what is your proposed solution?

Personally im fine with the games economy

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biralo wrote:

People's wealth, whether is in-game, or in real life, is almost directly proportional to the amount of time, energy, knowledge, and experience they put in it.

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Pinchyskree wrote:

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biralo wrote:

People's wealth, whether is in-game, or in real life, is almost directly proportional to the amount of time, energy, knowledge, and experience they put in it.

No.

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Ludak021 wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

And what is your proposed solution?

Personally im fine with the games economy

increase a chance to "chance" uniques.
increase orb drop rates. Sure, it will drive prices up but with previous sentence in place, it would negate that effect to some extent.

More orbs = more crafting and incentive to craft. You can craft 400-500dps thicket or harbringer bow, make crit build, take vaal pact and shit all over that voltaxic "QQ, I can't handle reflect without it" bow.
But this thread is not about Voltaxic bow, that was just an example given by OP.
You can still be rich even if shavs and voltaxics were to cost 5 exalted because drop rate and chance rate are 500% bigger. How? Well, they would still be rare items and you can have 50 of them while someone has only 1. In the end, we would get more playing for a lot of people and traders are gonna trade anyway. No harm done (save for elitists and their egos but screw them :) )

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oBLACKIECHANo wrote:

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Ludak021 wrote:

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jdilly23 wrote:

And what is your proposed solution?

Personally im fine with the games economy

increase a chance to "chance" uniques.
increase orb drop rates. Sure, it will drive prices up but with previous sentence in place, it would negate that effect to some extent.

More orbs = more crafting and incentive to craft. You can craft 400-500dps thicket or harbringer bow, make crit build, take vaal pact and shit all over that voltaxic "QQ, I can't handle reflect without it" bow.
But this thread is not about Voltaxic bow, that was just an example given by OP.
You can still be rich even if shavs and voltaxics were to cost 5 exalted because drop rate and chance rate are 500% bigger. How? Well, they would still be rare items and you can have 50 of them while someone has only 1. In the end, we would get more playing for a lot of people and traders are gonna trade anyway. No harm done (save for elitists and their egos but screw them :) )

Increasing orb drop rates only causes more inflation and prices remain essentially the same for those who have the bulk of their currency in items, while it gets worse for new or poorer players. Thank fuck GGG doesn't listen to the whining of kids about drop rates and solo play. This isn't single player game, part of it is trading, get the fuck over it.