[Poll] Self Found League - SFL /FINISHED

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Mahesys wrote:

You just want a league with no trading, but with the same advantages as trading? WTF Really?

I don't see whats so hard to understand about people wanting a league thats balanced for playing the game instead of trading.

+1 for self found league!

I'm playing self found right now... lvl 78 ranger doing maps (with "meh" equip). It's viable. Without increased drops.

I just like to have a new permanent league (no altf4core, no dump-league with crazy legacy items) with the same rules as the actual domination league...
- no increased drops
- trading disabled forever (guild trading is bad for me... too much tricks)
- a button to permanently turn your char in a classic league char (with no return obv)
- same item types (and same new items added with patches) as the domination league (or the new ladder league in the future)

it's a dream, I know, but I would pay even 2-300 point to have access to a similar perma-league

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iamstryker wrote:

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Mahesys wrote:

You just want a league with no trading, but with the same advantages as trading? WTF Really?

I don't see whats so hard to understand about people wanting a league thats balanced for playing the game instead of trading.

I don't see what's so hard to understand about the fact that you can play the game without trading right now, it's just harder. But it's supposed to be harder.

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iamstryker wrote:

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Mahesys wrote:

You just want a league with no trading, but with the same advantages as trading? WTF Really?

I don't see whats so hard to understand about people wanting a league thats balanced for playing the game instead of trading.

Game is balanced around players that can properly play the game, not around trading. As the one before me posted, being self found only is absolutely possible, specially in Softcore leagues

There are already plenty of players who are only self found in hardcore leagues too. So game is NOT balanced around trading

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

I don't see what's so hard to understand that you can play the game without trading right now, it's just harder. But it's supposed to be harder.

And what does your definition of whats fun have to do with this concept of a new league?

Don't just use the word harder because it would also be less fun IMO, and why would I want to do that to myself instead of supporting a new league to fit my playstyle of actually playing the game instead of achieving everything through trade?

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Mahesys wrote:

There are already plenty of players who are only self found in hardcore leagues too. So game is NOT balanced around trading

Players playing self found now does not prove that the game isn't balanced around the economy.

/logic

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iamstryker wrote:

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

I don't see what's so hard to understand that you can play the game without trading right now, it's just harder. But it's supposed to be harder.

And what does your definition of whats fun have to do with this concept of a new league?

Where did I speak about my definition of fun and what's fun and what's not ?

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iamstryker wrote:

and why would I want to do that to myself instead of supporting a new league to fit my playstyle of actually playing the game instead of achieving everything through trade?

LMAO you really think that people trading for items achieve everything through trade and are not people actually playing the game ?

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iamstryker wrote:

Players playing self found now does not prove that the game isn't balanced around the economy.

/logic

*sigh* Seriously, it just proves that in the state of the game right now you can play self found, what else are you asking for ?

I tell you : there is a game called PoE, where you can get your own loot and trade for some, and progress through those 2 means. But you can choose to only get and craft your own loot, it's viable but it will be harder. So, once again, what you want is an easier game, not a self-found mode of the game. /logic.

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iamstryker wrote:

Players playing self found now does not prove that the game isn't balanced around the economy.

/logic

Ok then, prove me the game is solely balanced around trading with arguments. I just proved that game isn't balanced around trading, well, to be honest, all actual self found players are the living proof that th game isn't balanced around trading.

Go on, i'm curious

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

Where did I speak about my definition of fun and what's fun and what's not ?

I guess I made an assumption based on your telling me to play the game self found in its current form instead of asking for a self found league. If other people find it fun thats fine but I sure don't.

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LMAO you really think that people trading for items achieve everything through trade and are not people actually playing the game ?

I think you know what I meant. The vast majority of wealth and good gear is acheived through trading. Currency is used mostly for trading and crafting is an after thought and too risky for most players. People play the game but they dont' achieve much by doing it other than to farm currency to TRADE for what they really want.

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Morgoth2356 wrote:

what you want is an easier game, not a self-found mode of the game. /logic.

This just shows you aren't really reading what I have typed making this conversation pointless.

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Mahesys wrote:

Ok then, prove me the game is solely balanced around trading with arguments. I just proved that game isn't balanced around trading, well, to be honest, all actual self found players are the living proof that th game isn't balanced around trading.

Go on, i'm curious

I feel ridiculous even responding to this but oh well. Lets just look at one example "exalted orbs", is the drop rate for exalted orbs balanced for an economy or for one self found player?