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GrimgnawIsNoSaint wrote:

With not being possible I was talking about respeccing out of these two duelist nodes. I didn't know you couldn't do that, but looking at at the tree it makes sense :P.

Anyway, I forgot I had a Marauder at Level 21 or something where I wasn't sure what to do with him, used some respec points and went for your build. I then used two-handed Mauls with Heavy Strike/Ground Slam until I got enough Dex for the rapiers. Now I'm Level 67 and really enjoying it, though my gear could definetely be better.
I might actually make it to doing maps with this Char.
Huge thanks for your help!

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XorakX6 wrote:

Is it possible to use a base of your build and turn it into a 2h build like this?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEABH4FLQ48Dq0S4RRxFfAX6hjbGdUa2xv6IQIhVSFgI_YkaiThJP0l3yi1KaUyCTMMNPI1hjkOOlI6WDqzPs9AoEOcR35KfVBQUUdUSVW1VgRW-lcNWGNaSFuvXz9gS2CIYSFhUmVNZ6BuaXTtdPF673uMfPWE2YZghxmHaod2iI-KIozPkAqQbJHOnCedqp65ns2fy6CdouqkGacwqXOplKvFuDe5zbndu-295r6nwKbA88EExLjG2NIh1QDV-Nw93Q3nUudU7g7uFO8O707v8PIv9kj3vvlj-0X8xf4r_94=

Does this build linked above have a remote chance of being decent?

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Sodomee wrote:

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XorakX6 wrote:

Is it possible to use a base of your build and turn it into a 2h build like this?

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEABH4FLQ48Dq0S4RRxFfAX6hjbGdUa2xv6IQIhVSFgI_YkaiThJP0l3yi1KaUyCTMMNPI1hjkOOlI6WDqzPs9AoEOcR35KfVBQUUdUSVW1VgRW-lcNWGNaSFuvXz9gS2CIYSFhUmVNZ6BuaXTtdPF673uMfPWE2YZghxmHaod2iI-KIozPkAqQbJHOnCedqp65ns2fy6CdouqkGacwqXOplKvFuDe5zbndu-295r6nwKbA88EExLjG2NIh1QDV-Nw93Q3nUudU7g7uFO8O707v8PIv9kj3vvlj-0X8xf4r_94=

Does this build linked above have a remote chance of being decent?

I would not make a crit-based 2H cleave build to be honest. You will have 0% block and crit chance is harder to get in the passive tree. Also cleave greatly benefits from dual-wielding because you attack with both weapons at the same time.


If you are set on making a 2H version, I suggest changing the build you linked to something like this:

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgEABH4FLQ48Dq0S4RRxFfAX6hjbGtsb-iFgI_Yk_SXfKLUppTIJNYY6UjpYOrNAoEOcR35KfVBQVElVtVYEVvpXDVhjWkhbr18_YEtgiGEhYVJlTWegbml07XTxeu989YTZhmCHGYdqh3aIj4oijM-QCpBskc6cJ52qnrmezZ_LoJ2i6qQZpzCplKvFuc253bvtvqfApsDzwQTEuMbY0iHVANX43Q3nUudU7g7uFO8O707v8PIv9kj3vvlj-0X8xdlhVamXtKy6GS7Ujyft892sqlnzwBoW-Yg4nYqQVaeEGjjsODrYLdI=

Physical damage stacking in your tree is not really all that important for a crit build. You will want to stack crit chance more than anything because it is going to be the most difficult thing to obtain with this build. Crit multiplier is easy to obtain with items such as Maligaro's and a nice rare amulet. Also, you will need more life, armour, and endurance charges if you plan on going for a 2H build because you will have 0% block.

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thenewapollo wrote:

maybe i missed an earlier explanation but from the first post i understood u switch gems everytime u face a reflec rare? isnt that a complete pain?

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mvm199 wrote:

I can handle map reflect pretty easily. For Physical Reflect, take out Concentrated Effect and replace Melee Physical Damage with Life on Hit. For Elemental Reflect, replace Weapon Elemental Damage with Life on Hit. If the map brings you below capped resists you should also replace Added Fire with Life Leech. For Double Reflect, replace Melee Physical and Weapon Elemental Damage with Life Leech and Life on Hit; take out Concentrated Effect. If it is Double Reflect and your resists are not capped, you will want to run only Multrike with double leech.

pretty easily - by fetching a 2200 armor chest piece and doing all the above steps in the middle of combat?

Why not just use immortal call vs phys reflect, use a heavy strike vs ele reflect and skip ele / phys reflect maps?

I said map reflect which means reflect mods directly on the map. I don't take out gems in the middle of a map. You can use immortal call for rare mobs with reflect, but with only 4 endurance charges it isn't exactly advisable to constantly use it in a reflect map for every pack of monsters. I don't need 6-7 endurance charges because I have so much armour, I can just granite for a reflect mob and focus him down. You can even use dual strike to focus down a reflect mob, but I usually just run in a group and let my brother(wander) focus down the reflect.

Also if you cannot obtain a 2k armour chest piece, It is better to stay away from all of the crit multiplier. Crit multiplier is the one thing that will kill you on reflect if you don't have enough armour. I have over 500 crit damage, but I suggest staying below 400 if you cannot get over 10k armour.

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Slagmaur wrote:

Nice build and gear you got there mate.
Impressing dps also.

As for the 6L have you tried any of the critical support gems ?
What's your opinion about them ?
I'm gonna respec my 48 templar and think of going elemental crit cleave.

Thanks!

I haven't tried any of the critical support gems because I feel that I have enough crit multiplier and that the % damage bonuses scale much better with the crit damage that I have. I also feel that the critical strike chance gem isn't that great of a gem and I don't have any extra power charges in my build to make power charge on crit worth using.

My build might be able to be improved upon with different bandit rewards and gem combinations that I haven't tested yet. I just wanted to release this build because I feel like I am the only one who is not using RT on a cleave build. This is crazy because you can achieve so much more with a crit cleave build and you won't need as much gear as the RT cleave builds have. The most expensive piece I have is my chest and that was self-crafted. You don't need a 6 link though, I actually leveled to 88 in a 4 link that had only 600 armour. I was at 19k dps in a 4 link which was more than all of the BoR RT blenders that I saw in Anarchy.

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keddewow wrote:

is this viable for HC?

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alex_gio1983 wrote:

Followed this build till lvl 45 then a desync+bunch of mob rape me in act2 cruel.
Was having a lot fun & this was my first melee build and also my first serious try in Onslought.

Dps & survivabily were great, was using warlord's mark so i was 24/7 always full of mana&life&run speed. Also cleave was great, tough i was using axe for more dps (i specced a lot in life-nodes, and i was in the beginning of take those duelist+crit nodes)

Must reroll a new char, tough this time will be something ranger+minions... i'm done with melee desync...

Ty for sharing a great build.
This build deserve much more attention, to prove that also critical-melee-life based char can shine.