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oh... I was trying to find what consecreated ground does but never found out... thx for explaining :)

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hyper_ch wrote:

oh... I was trying to find what consecreated ground does but never found out... thx for explaining :)

Yeah there isn't much information about what it does. Your welcome, thanks for the interest in my build!

Nice build and gear you got there mate.
Impressing dps also.

As for the 6L have you tried any of the critical support gems ?
What's your opinion about them ?
I'm gonna respec my 48 templar and think of going elemental crit cleave.

I can handle map reflect pretty easily. For Physical Reflect, take out Concentrated Effect and replace Melee Physical Damage with Life on Hit. For Elemental Reflect, replace Weapon Elemental Damage with Life on Hit. If the map brings you below capped resists you should also replace Added Fire with Life Leech. For Double Reflect, replace Melee Physical and Weapon Elemental Damage with Life Leech and Life on Hit; take out Concentrated Effect. If it is Double Reflect and your resists are not capped, you will want to run only Multrike with double leech.

pretty easily - by fetching a 2200 armor chest piece and doing all the above steps in the middle of combat?

Why not just use immortal call vs phys reflect, use a heavy strike vs ele reflect and skip ele / phys reflect maps?

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mvm199 wrote:

I can handle map reflect pretty easily. For Physical Reflect, take out Concentrated Effect and replace Melee Physical Damage with Life on Hit. For Elemental Reflect, replace Weapon Elemental Damage with Life on Hit. If the map brings you below capped resists you should also replace Added Fire with Life Leech. For Double Reflect, replace Melee Physical and Weapon Elemental Damage with Life Leech and Life on Hit; take out Concentrated Effect. If it is Double Reflect and your resists are not capped, you will want to run only Multrike with double leech.

pretty easily - by fetching a 2200 armor chest piece and doing all the above steps in the middle of combat?

Why not just use immortal call vs phys reflect, use a heavy strike vs ele reflect and skip ele / phys reflect maps?

I said map reflect which means reflect mods directly on the map. I don't take out gems in the middle of a map. You can use immortal call for rare mobs with reflect, but with only 4 endurance charges it isn't exactly advisable to constantly use it in a reflect map for every pack of monsters. I don't need 6-7 endurance charges because I have so much armour, I can just granite for a reflect mob and focus him down. You can even use dual strike to focus down a reflect mob, but I usually just run in a group and let my brother(wander) focus down the reflect.

Also if you cannot obtain a 2k armour chest piece, It is better to stay away from all of the crit multiplier. Crit multiplier is the one thing that will kill you on reflect if you don't have enough armour. I have over 500 crit damage, but I suggest staying below 400 if you cannot get over 10k armour.

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Slagmaur wrote:

Nice build and gear you got there mate.
Impressing dps also.

As for the 6L have you tried any of the critical support gems ?
What's your opinion about them ?
I'm gonna respec my 48 templar and think of going elemental crit cleave.

Thanks!

I haven't tried any of the critical support gems because I feel that I have enough crit multiplier and that the % damage bonuses scale much better with the crit damage that I have. I also feel that the critical strike chance gem isn't that great of a gem and I don't have any extra power charges in my build to make power charge on crit worth using.

My build might be able to be improved upon with different bandit rewards and gem combinations that I haven't tested yet. I just wanted to release this build because I feel like I am the only one who is not using RT on a cleave build. This is crazy because you can achieve so much more with a crit cleave build and you won't need as much gear as the RT cleave builds have. The most expensive piece I have is my chest and that was self-crafted. You don't need a 6 link though, I actually leveled to 88 in a 4 link that had only 600 armour. I was at 19k dps in a 4 link which was more than all of the BoR RT blenders that I saw in Anarchy.

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Sodomee wrote:

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mvm199 wrote:

I can handle map reflect pretty easily. For Physical Reflect, take out Concentrated Effect and replace Melee Physical Damage with Life on Hit. For Elemental Reflect, replace Weapon Elemental Damage with Life on Hit. If the map brings you below capped resists you should also replace Added Fire with Life Leech. For Double Reflect, replace Melee Physical and Weapon Elemental Damage with Life Leech and Life on Hit; take out Concentrated Effect. If it is Double Reflect and your resists are not capped, you will want to run only Multrike with double leech.

pretty easily - by fetching a 2200 armor chest piece and doing all the above steps in the middle of combat?

Why not just use immortal call vs phys reflect, use a heavy strike vs ele reflect and skip ele / phys reflect maps?

I said map reflect which means reflect mods directly on the map. I don't take out gems in the middle of a map. You can use immortal call for rare mobs with reflect, but with only 4 endurance charges it isn't exactly advisable to constantly use it in a reflect map for every pack of monsters. I don't need 6-7 endurance charges because I have so much armour, I can just granite for a reflect mob and focus him down. You can even use dual strike to focus down a reflect mob, but I usually just run in a group and let my brother(wander) focus down the reflect.

Also if you cannot obtain a 2k armour chest piece, It is better to stay away from all of the crit multiplier. Crit multiplier is the one thing that will kill you on reflect if you don't have enough armour. I have over 500 crit damage, but I suggest staying below 400 if you cannot get over 10k armour.

What i am saying is, removing your dps gems and choosing a limited amount of crit multiplier on a crit based build is kind of funny. But I like crit cleave as an idea, the dmg is crazy for sure.

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mvm199 wrote:

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Sodomee wrote:

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mvm199 wrote:

I can handle map reflect pretty easily. For Physical Reflect, take out Concentrated Effect and replace Melee Physical Damage with Life on Hit. For Elemental Reflect, replace Weapon Elemental Damage with Life on Hit. If the map brings you below capped resists you should also replace Added Fire with Life Leech. For Double Reflect, replace Melee Physical and Weapon Elemental Damage with Life Leech and Life on Hit; take out Concentrated Effect. If it is Double Reflect and your resists are not capped, you will want to run only Multrike with double leech.

pretty easily - by fetching a 2200 armor chest piece and doing all the above steps in the middle of combat?

Why not just use immortal call vs phys reflect, use a heavy strike vs ele reflect and skip ele / phys reflect maps?

I said map reflect which means reflect mods directly on the map. I don't take out gems in the middle of a map. You can use immortal call for rare mobs with reflect, but with only 4 endurance charges it isn't exactly advisable to constantly use it in a reflect map for every pack of monsters. I don't need 6-7 endurance charges because I have so much armour, I can just granite for a reflect mob and focus him down. You can even use dual strike to focus down a reflect mob, but I usually just run in a group and let my brother(wander) focus down the reflect.

Also if you cannot obtain a 2k armour chest piece, It is better to stay away from all of the crit multiplier. Crit multiplier is the one thing that will kill you on reflect if you don't have enough armour. I have over 500 crit damage, but I suggest staying below 400 if you cannot get over 10k armour.

What i am saying is, removing your dps gems and choosing a limited amount of crit multiplier on a crit based build is kind of funny. But I like crit cleave as an idea, the dmg is crazy for sure.

I don't actually need to remove my gems, but I do it because things can get dangerous when you cleave into 30+ monsters(bugs,crabs, etc.) at once. I have cleaved into reflect many times without knowing it and sometimes it did nothing, other times it hurt but I have never died to reflect after getting my 6L. I only remove my gems so that the reflect does nothing to me. I don't like taking risks at level 94 because dying is quite frustrating.

Also if you don't have the armour to handle reflect, it is very wise to hold off on stacking the crit multiplier. I've died a few times to invisible(underwater, covered up by allies cannot die, etc.) reflect because I stacked too much(500+) crit multi when I had only 5-6k armour. With low armour, you can die so fast(2-3 hits from one multistrike cleave) to reflect it is an unavoidable death.

What is your dps with a reave gem ?

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Torgh wrote:

What is your dps with a reave gem ?

Reave = 100 damage effectiveness vs cleave's 70, a bit more physical increase because no penalty, and only one weapon swung at a time.

So a big approximation ... 45000 / 2 x 100/70 = 32k dps

i have respect yesterday eveing to this build bb ground slam.

i like it, i did want to play with reave, but it is not so good.

i'm looking for a nice off hand and amulet + ring. i need intel ...