Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

So wrong.

In a game like PoE soloing and farming is what keeps them alive.

This is an ARPG first and formost, it isn't WoW. Diablo 2 never died and it was fully FFA when playing with others.

Ideally, PoE should have been a single player game anyway, with a multiplayer option, but its essentially a single player game thats online where you can group up with others at any time.

No one cares in the slightest if you play the game solo or in a group.

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mobutu wrote:

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bhavv wrote:

You're not meant to trust anyone in this game, and grouping is supposed to have a cutthroat approach to it, hasn't this already been explained at least a thousand times?

Also, was responded/addressed a thousand times that when you group with friends (aka private party) there is absolutely no "cutthroat approach to it" and also you trust your friends 100% and also the game becomes easy-peasy not hardcorer.

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bhavv wrote:

So many kiddies that need to go back to typical cookie cutter MMOs.

So many wannabe hardcore elitists that should really think a bit before opening their mouths and talking nonsense.

Then stick to playing with your friends in private parties only, stop wasting your time with joining public PUGs and whining when you are too slow to collect any loot.

Just stop embarrassing yourself

Your reaction to being shamefully beaten in an argument is to accuse the other person of embarassing themselves?

Youre the embarassment that that expects that any random player in an online game should have to follow your pathetic rules.

Play on your own, or play with friends, and you won't have any problems. Don't play with random people in a FFA game if you hate FFA loot so much.

Its unbelievably simply for anyone with a single braincell to understand.

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bhavv wrote:

Your reaction to being shamefully beaten in an argument is to accuse the other person of embarassing themselves?

Youre the embarassment that that expects that any random player in an online game should have to follow your pathetic rules.

Play on your own, or play with friends, and you won't have any problems. Don't play with random people in a FFA game if you hate FFA loot so much.

Its unbelievably simply for anyone with a single braincell to understand.

2 problems:
1) This game is always online. Making it virtually mandatory to be a single-player game in order to get loot while still being always online is complete and utter bullshit. It doesn't matter that the game is F2P, it was bullshit in D3, it's bullshit in SimCity, and it's bullshit here.

2) This game is NOT hardcore. It's actually pretty weak, mostly because it's makes very pretentious, half-assed attempts to appear hardcore. This issue comes up in a lot of facets of gameplay, not just the looting system, and makes me wonder if GGG is really the team I want ascending to Diablo's throne.

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bhavv wrote:

being shamefully beaten

I am hundred percent sure you speak about yourself.
Its cristal clear.

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bhavv wrote:

Play on your own, or play with friends

I wonder why when i press S (ingame) theres a tab called "public parties"/"create public".
Why do you think the devs put it there?
Hmmm ... the answer seems to be so hard to figure ...

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bhavv wrote:

Its unbelievably simply for anyone with a single braincell to understand.

indeed ;) you give yourself pretty good advices, keep up the good work

Debates are fun and all but this one has already been decided. GGG has to listened to feedback and will change the system.

http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/92894

I trust them to make a positive change.

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bhavv wrote:

Your reaction to being shamefully beaten in an argument is to accuse the other person of embarassing themselves?

Youre the embarassment that that expects that any random player in an online game should have to follow your pathetic rules.

Play on your own, or play with friends, and you won't have any problems. Don't play with random people in a FFA game if you hate FFA loot so much.

Its unbelievably simply for anyone with a single braincell to understand.

I haven't read whats going on yet. Just wanted to post how I still find it strange how your berating people for not liking something like this confusing loot system while you yourself can't handle the default death penalty. Why do you want default to be unbelievably easy?

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bhavv wrote:

So many kiddies that need to go back to typical cookie cutter MMOs.

Especially those who want absolutely no death penalty....

Edit: Have you figured out how to not die yet? I recall you saying that its impossible not to die in the end game....

Death penalties are a feature borrowed from cookie cutter MMOs, so I have no idea what you are talking about there.

The sacred and torchlight series didn't have death penalties outside of hardcore mode, I'm pretty certain that Diablo 2 didn't either.

Games with death penalties - Guild Wars 1 and 2, DDO, Maple Story, Final Fantasy online to name a few.

Everything that the MMO genre typically does, PoE needs to stop doing. I also don't believe that you or anyone else have yet found a way to beat this game by playing it 100 solo and melee, so don't think you're so pro because you leech in other peoples groups with a ranged / summoner / totem build.

My requests for this game are simple - possible to beat solo with any playstyle, no more loot penaties when soloing (/player x), no more death penalties on default league, and leaving the loot system alone, preferably with names on bound loot removed.

You know, to actually have the game closer to all the other ARPGs out there, as opposed to borrowing so much from anything that's like WoW.

Diablo 2 had a death penaltie.