Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.
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We initially announced that looting is free-for-all in Path of Exile. Players would be able to see and pick up any items that dropped.
It's important to us that Path of Exile has a cut-throat feel where players are not only competing against monsters, but also their fellow players. We do not feel it is an option to arbitrarily hide items from players who have not been allocated them. As we saw here and here, many players really objected to this. Several legitimate problems with free-for-all looting were raised: - Ranged players are unable to get to the items in time. - Items might just get scooped up by one player with substantially lower latency than the other players. Over the past few months we've thought long and hard about this topic, and have come up with a system that we feel captures the cut-throat feel that we're trying to go for, but helps mitigate the valid complaints. We're proposing the following system: - All white text items are free-for-all. - All magic/rare/unique/currency/gem items are allocated to a nearby player for a very small amount of time. - All players can see the item, and a countdown of how much time remains until it's available to anyone is shown. - The allocation time is intended to be very small (enough time to compensate for a little latency, reaction time and travel distance). We're thinking a base time of something in the order of 1 second when standing next to the item. - The time would be increased by the time it takes for the character to run to the item. An item allocated to a ranged player might unallocate after two seconds, for example. - It's important that the time is low enough that the player can only get the item if they are paying attention and make an effort to immediately grab it. - The allocation times can be lower or non-existent in hardcore or cut-throat leagues. Players who wanted an allocated looting system will hopefully be happy that this system mitigates item loss due to latency and travel distance. Players who wanted a free-for-all looting system will hopefully be pleased - with this system they can take any item they want if the allocated player is not paying attention to the drops. This is a concept based on feedback only. It's not locked in stone, but we like the direction it's going in. What do you guys think about this suggestion? Please don't just post "allocated sucks", or "I won't play if it's free-for-all". Mod edit: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/268683/page/1 represents the current state of the loot system. On behalf of GGG, thank you all for your feedback. Please note that as we are still in beta, these changes are still subject to feedback and modification. Any feedback you have about the new loot system should be made in the linked thread, because that is the one the devs will be reading. Not this one. -- Charan Last edited by Foreverhappychan on Mar 18, 2013, 2:19:36 AM
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" The idea is that there's still an adrenaline rush and that the player has to be alert and aware of what items are dropping. | |
" Randomly among nearby players. | |
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We are still reading this (and all other) threads by the way :)
The discussion is very interesting to read. | |
" It's just that the list of public leagues will be kept low so as not to confuse people. It's okay to have a lot of private leagues. | |
" Do you have a reference for the extra base damage? | |
" We're always watching. It is (especially this current discussion) very fascinating and does help us adjust the direction that certain undecided things take. We just don't have time to participate in the arguments unless absolutely necessary. Continue. | |
" To be honest, this is exactly what makes cut-throat fun. You have to manage what items are expendable at any time. Have you guys played Darkfall Online? (I understand the mechanic was used in earlier online games like UO and that Darkfall didn't pioneer it). " This is an optional play mode that will probably appeal to less than 5% of the players (and probably not for their primary characters). The room in PoE for this feature is that it's an amazingly fun and interesting way to play the game for people who like that style of play. " There will be measures in place to prevent disparity in player levels. You're completely right that if high level players can arbitrarily grief low level players, it won't be a fun mode. Games such as Darkfall have systems that allow people to attack freely but make them free targets for those who later want to counter attack without also being flagged. We'll investigate these types of rules as playtesting continues. | |
" You're right. We can't send just portions of the map to players as they approach. We do that with monsters and chests though - they aren't generated on the client for obvious reasons and have to be serialised as you approach. | |
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Hey guys,
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