Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Ginfress wrote:
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Zulgohlan wrote:

i dont think they are masochists or throwing out money in their sparetime, but this has nothing to do with speculations if youve got a higher IQ then a stone at least


Still speculative. They have a vision and they know what they need in amount of customers and money to keep going, we don't. Don't need to have a brilliant IQ for that =p


you dont need a vision, you need potential new customers, or do you think CB people still putting 1000 of dollars/euros in every month? if the most people quit this game, in the best situation, it turns in a AoC NR.2 with the most terrible support in game history and things like (for example) 20euro chartransfer 10euro namechange and awful comfortability when you dont put a lot of money in it ...... (and all for so little optional gamedesicions)
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fragmaster92 wrote:

It can dominate the forums as much as you would like, however (incoming personal opinion) I highly doubt, if not expect that GGG will NEVER have instanced loot like so many of you want. It's just not in the stars.


Its a good thing that instanced loot isn't even remotely the only other option being discussed.
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Ginfress wrote:


True nature of FFA in this game sucks and i do hope they work on that. Remove timers, add pvp, bounty. Although the prospect of threads telling GGG their profession sucks and others need to be nerfed to oblivion so they can win a fight is even more daunting to me than this thread =p


there is no true nature FFA in this game

there is one nature FFA...

and we do not ask for nerfing nothing we ask the obvious...

every party member rewarded equally for the contribution to the party unless they figure a system that the players are rewarded for their contribution to the party (loot scaled to %dmg done to a mob for example)

nothing more nothing less

ps. there is nothing to do with rng gods for map drops...map drops are endgame and atm are more are than an exalted and a regal :p ... still no map drop :P 3.5 lvls of farming docks merci (68-71.5)
ps1. sorry for the off topic...:P but they seem to have other problems also ;p
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For me, loot system in this game totally sucks. If it was any good, so many people wouldn't try to find a way to bypass it (multiaccounting) and this thread wouldn't have 700+ pages.
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Vooodu wrote:



Example being loot options. Loot 'options' is a bad idea. It needs to be one way or the other for the sake of everyone playing the same game.



It should definitely be one way or the other instead of attempting or posing at pleasing both sides. The timers and names confuse the player base. The devs would be far more consistent if they removed them and made it completly FFA. I would respect them much more for doing that. Instead of how it is currently where people act like its a compromise to have the super short timers.

And it would be even more consistent to add in true cutthroat. Let us hostile eachother. Now the game is actually making sense to one side of the issue.
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iamstryker wrote:
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Vooodu wrote:



Example being loot options. Loot 'options' is a bad idea. It needs to be one way or the other for the sake of everyone playing the same game.



It should definitely be one way or the other instead of attempting or posing at pleasing both sides. The timers and names confuse the player base. The devs would be far more consistent if they removed them and made it completly FFA. I would respect them much more for doing that. Instead of how it is currently where people act like its a compromise to have the super short timers.

And it would be even more consistent to add in true cutthroat. Let us hostile eachother. Now the game is actually making sense to one side of the issue.


yeap i totally agree here....it would be honest to say

this is hardcore game only casuals sorry but we do not see the world with your eyes....

at least i woulda know that from the start and wouldnt' spend a penny for something i wouldnt' like...

but they seemed to accept feedback , they seem to accept some facts they seem to hear...this means that they want me (for obvious reasons)...

but we are really getting pissed off really (At least i am )i can handle some stuff...but i do not like someone staying silent to "please" all sides..you just cant' do that
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The timers and names confuse the player base. The devs would be far more consistent if they removed them and made it completly FFA. I would respect them much more for doing that.


Exactly. This game doesnt have FFA. As i have said way to fucking many times to count, this is totally NOT a FFA system. Its a wanna be FFA/Instanced bullshit hybrid that has caused nothing but a giant fucking headache.

Timer / names, should have never been added.
GGG - Why you no?
I really don't understand what the objective of the current looting system is.

I lost 'my' GCP that dropped last night in a docks group. Irrespective of whether you think that is right; I thought 'f this game', swore off grouping and logged off. I don't think this game has much longevity as a single player game, and the current loot system makes grouping in public games unpleasant. I'm certainly no saint wrt loot drops, and I've taken plenty of loot off other people myself. However, it doesn't make me feel good about the game.

This is a major problem for a game based on partying. Also, this game isn't popular enough for 'outside' partying systems to work. I play HC at NZ + 12, and haven't found anyone through various other gaming sites that fit that schedule.

D3 didn't have this problem because 'everyone' played D3, so I had plenty of friends from other games to play with and I wasn't forced into public games. I don't know anyone IRL who plays this game, so my two choices seem to be public partying and getting annoyed due to perceived unfairness of loot drops, or soloing. At the moment I'm spending most of my time soloing, but I can see that that will become stale sooner rather than later.

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killbilly wrote:
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iamstryker wrote:
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Vooodu wrote:



Example being loot options. Loot 'options' is a bad idea. It needs to be one way or the other for the sake of everyone playing the same game.



It should definitely be one way or the other instead of attempting or posing at pleasing both sides. The timers and names confuse the player base. The devs would be far more consistent if they removed them and made it completly FFA. I would respect them much more for doing that. Instead of how it is currently where people act like its a compromise to have the super short timers.

And it would be even more consistent to add in true cutthroat. Let us hostile eachother. Now the game is actually making sense to one side of the issue.


yeap i totally agree here....


Holy shit. We all agree on something i posted.


Hell hasth frozenth over...:D

A round of beers for everybody.


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shermo wrote:
I really don't understand what the objective of the current looting system is.

I lost 'my' GCP that dropped last night in a docks group. Irrespective of whether you think that is right; I thought 'f this game', swore off grouping and logged off. I don't think this game has much longevity as a single player game, and the current loot system makes grouping in public games unpleasant. I'm certainly no saint wrt loot drops, and I've taken plenty of loot off other people myself. However, it doesn't make me feel good about the game.

This is a major problem for a game based on partying. Also, this game isn't popular enough for 'outside' partying systems to work. I play HC at NZ + 12, and haven't found anyone through various other gaming sites that fit that schedule.

D3 didn't have this problem because 'everyone' played D3, so I had plenty of friends from other games to play with and I wasn't forced into public games. I don't know anyone IRL who plays this game, so my two choices seem to be public partying and getting annoyed due to perceived unfairness of loot drops, or soloing. At the moment I'm spending most of my time soloing, but I can see that that will become stale sooner rather than later.



yeap i am there also (at least i havent' lost my mirror to a monkey fast clicker)
solo IS boring and having rng'ed endgame is making it worst any minute that passes and i am farming docks merci every minute is worster that the previous...

i am trying to milk my 100bucks but honestly this grindfest reminds me the chinese grindfest...uninspired, unrewarding , crappy sloppy design...

i have around 7-8 days /played pure solo pure HC and i am starting to feel bored....damn those 100bucks damn them
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