Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Vooodu wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

The majority of forum posters want loot options BTW.

That simply is not true.

But, its safe to say the majority of most posts that want something make no sense at all.


Example being loot options. Loot 'options' is a bad idea. It needs to be one way or the other for the sake of everyone playing the same game.



At this point i could care less if its instanced loot or not. But if instanced loot becomes available i won't play FFA anymore. So, ffa will become pointless.

Same thing will happen if loot options become available. Everyone will always pick the option that makes it easier for them. No one will gimp themselves if an easier options exists. Unless some HUGE bonus will apply to FFA loot.


GGG should have never added a loot timer in the first place. Is clear as day that this is the biggest problem with the loot system. Any ranged players who knows who to play does not have issues have getting a drop.

Its the timer. The timer is what causes the problem mentally for people. I would like to see them remove it for a week to see the actual feed back from that.

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fragmaster92 wrote:

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Vooodu wrote:

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wrathmar wrote:

The majority of forum posters want loot options BTW.

That simply is not true.

But, its safe to say the majority of most posts that want something make no sense at all.


Example being loot options. Loot 'options' is a bad idea. It needs to be one way or the other for the sake of everyone playing the same game.



At this point i could care less if its instanced loot or not. But if instanced loot becomes available i won't play FFA anymore. So, ffa will become pointless.

Same thing will happen if loot options become available. Everyone will always pick the option that makes it easier for them. No one will gimp themselves if an easier options exists. Unless some HUGE bonus will apply to FFA loot.


GGG should have never added a loot timer in the first place. Is clear as day that this is the biggest problem with the loot system. Any ranged players who knows who to play does not have issues have getting a drop.

Its the timer. The timer is what causes the problem mentally for people. I would like to see them remove it for a week to see the actual feed back from that.

Sums it up very well. The point of the timer wasn't to allocate loot to players, but simply allow for ranged to have a tiny period of time to run in before FFA, which was the original plan.

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Chris wrote:

Items might just get scooped up by one player with substantially lower latency than the other players.

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kzaju wrote:

FFA works in games like Darkfall because there is open pvp there. My suggestion is to give players more loot options or flag ninjas for pvp (in hardcore as well). Devs, you want loot system to be truly cutthroat - make it so.

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kzaju wrote:

FFA works in games like Darkfall because there is open pvp there. My suggestion is to give players more loot options or flag ninjas for pvp (in hardcore as well). Devs, you want loot system to be truly cutthroat - make it so.

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Vooodu wrote:

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kzaju wrote:

FFA works in games like Darkfall because there is open pvp there. My suggestion is to give players more loot options or flag ninjas for pvp (in hardcore as well). Devs, you want loot system to be truly cutthroat - make it so.

Well, since there is no such thing as ninjas. I mean, loot timers does not mean allocated loot. That idea is pretty wack.

Flag a ninja? You mean flag the guy who got the drop in a FFA game. Which pretty much means you want to flag a normal player for playing the game the way its meant to be played.

Which would mean every two seconds some whiney player would make that call and hit the hositle/flag button. Probably get owned and RAGE on the forums even more. Not just about loot, but also about how he died.

Because as much as i love this game, the pvp currently is pretty bad.


Im all for open world pvp, but the pvp part of the game still needs a ton of work to balance out.


Again, your post is just another example of how loot timers effect people mentally. No matter how you slice it, that timer is meant as chance at a drop. Something that people can't seem to grasp.

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fragmaster92 wrote:

I know it wasn't just for ranged, those with poor computers too, yes i'm one of those. But that doesn't really change much from what i've said. The extremely short timer is just to make it a slighlty, yes only slightly, more even for the FFA. It wasn't really to say "Ey, poor computer/ ranged char. This drop right here yea it's yours, your name on it" But rather "Ey, do you like/want this item? better get here in time for the free for all to have a fair chance."

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killbilly wrote:

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fragmaster92 wrote:

I know it wasn't just for ranged, those with poor computers too, yes i'm one of those. But that doesn't really change much from what i've said. The extremely short timer is just to make it a slighlty, yes only slightly, more even for the FFA. It wasn't really to say "Ey, poor computer/ ranged char. This drop right here yea it's yours, your name on it" But rather "Ey, do you like/want this item? better get here in time for the free for all to have a fair chance."

so you acnwoledged that the TRUE nature of FFA has a "little" problem right? the problem is that it didnt' recognise effort to the party/group only connection/computer/reflexes

com'on guys say it