Looting -- The official thread for discussing the loot system. Updated 18th March, 2013.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

The proper question is: How many of those players that played D2, moved to D3, are waiting for a game like this, that is like D2? A lot.

Yes, a lot. And a bunch of them are GREENS now.
lolol wat do?

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Actually i played with a friend, and by the end of the area if i recall correctly, he got very little loot due to me being melee (Duelist) and him being caster.
If it was a pub, the issues would have been even worse as i gave my friend some gear i looted when we headed to town i think.

So that is more of a timer issue, then an actual FFA issue. I don't mind if the timer is extended a couple seconds. It also shows that since your friend trusts you, he didn't jump on his drops. Chances are in a pub game he would have gotten more loot, not less. Since he would have been paying closer attention t drops. Its highly likely he would not get every drop in his name though. He would have just gotten someone else's loot to compensate.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So you don't have any experience whatsoever with playing in pub games?

Lets say im a human being (which i am), i have the capability to simulate situations in my mind.
Now if i got 80% of ALL loot when i played with friend, when i was melee and my friend was ranged.
That would mean that the same would happen in a public game.
Also how high is chance that i can ask this and get a "yes":
"Hey can i have those rares you picked up? i kinda need them." to a random pub player?

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moikpei wrote:

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Jackel6672 wrote:

The proper question is: How many of those players that played D2, moved to D3, are waiting for a game like this, that is like D2? A lot.

Yes, a lot. And a bunch of them are GREENS now.
lolol wat do?

How do you prove that players that were once FFA'ers are now "Instance for life lolololo"? When there was a huge out cry as to how crappy D3 was?

By your posts I see an earlier post of mine about demographics will be correct though.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

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Actually i played with a friend, and by the end of the area if i recall correctly, he got very little loot due to me being melee (Duelist) and him being caster.
If it was a pub, the issues would have been even worse as i gave my friend some gear i looted when we headed to town i think.

So that is more of a timer issue, then an actual FFA issue. I don't mind if the timer is extended a couple seconds. It also shows that since your friend trusts you, he didn't jump on his drops. Chances are in a pub game he would have gotten more loot, not less. Since he would have been paying closer attention t drops. Its highly likely he would not get every drop in his name though. He would have just gotten someone else's loot to compensate.

If your on board with the timer being extended then you are far different than the guys like Slayer in this thread.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

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moikpei wrote:

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Jackel6672 wrote:

The proper question is: How many of those players that played D2, moved to D3, are waiting for a game like this, that is like D2? A lot.

Yes, a lot. And a bunch of them are GREENS now.
lolol wat do?

How do you prove that players that were once FFA'ers are now "Instance for life lolololo"? When there was a huge out cry as to how crappy D3 was?

By your posts I see an earlier post of mine about demographics will be correct though.

I may have missed part of this discussion but being a D2 player does not mean that your an FFAer. I liked D2 a lot but I never liked its FFA loot system. I don't think D2's popularity had ANYTHING to do with it being FFA.

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Planetsurvival wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So you don't have any experience whatsoever with playing in pub games?

Lets say im a human being (which i am), i have the capability to simulate situations in my mind.
Now if i got 80% of ALL loot when i played with friend, when i was melee and my friend was ranged.
That would mean that the same would happen in a public game.
Also how high is chance that i can ask this and get a "yes":
"Hey can i have those rares you picked up? i kinda need them." to a random pub player?

You're forgetting that they can't always pick up their own loot. You will get loot, just not always in your name.

Again, I agree the timer needs to be about a second or two longer.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

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Actually i played with a friend, and by the end of the area if i recall correctly, he got very little loot due to me being melee (Duelist) and him being caster.
If it was a pub, the issues would have been even worse as i gave my friend some gear i looted when we headed to town i think.

So that is more of a timer issue, then an actual FFA issue. I don't mind if the timer is extended a couple seconds. It also shows that since your friend trusts you, he didn't jump on his drops. Chances are in a pub game he would have gotten more loot, not less. Since he would have been paying closer attention t drops. Its highly likely he would not get every drop in his name though. He would have just gotten someone else's loot to compensate.

A couple of seconds?
Try 30+ seconds.
The issue is still FFA loot.
And that everyone sees loot+timer and dives in headless into enemies that are half dead and dies in the process.

Or there could be a League, non-penalized with Instanced/Infinite loot timer.
And people woudnt need to dive headless into enemies to loot items...

Now if recall correctly, there is a microtransaction option to make ones own leagues.
Or atleast it will be in the shop later it seems.

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Jackel6672 wrote:

How do you prove that players that were once FFA'ers are now "Instance for life lolololo"? When there was a huge out cry as to how crappy D3 was?

By your posts I see an earlier post of mine about demographics will be correct though.

To me, this thread is the proof. I'm assuming each person here has played both. Everyone seems invested enough in the genre to fight tooth and nail for what they enjoy, they probably played a lot of thing.And, more people have been falling onside of a compromise than not. Example:

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Jackel6672 wrote:

I don't mind if the timer is extended a couple seconds.

That's some straight up GREEN right there. We're on the same team now.

I don't remember what the demographics comment was. But we're bros now, so I will confess that it's true.

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Planetsurvival wrote:

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SL4Y3R wrote:

So you don't have any experience whatsoever with playing in pub games?

Lets say im a human being (which i am), i have the capability to simulate situations in my mind.
Now if i got 80% of ALL loot when i played with friend, when i was melee and my friend was ranged.
That would mean that the same would happen in a public game.
Also how high is chance that i can ask this and get a "yes":
"Hey can i have those rares you picked up? i kinda need them." to a random pub player?

Depends. If it were me, you'd get them.

I tend to play pubs for fun/entertainment. I usually dont care about the loot at all. If I get what I'm going for, cool. If not, meh.

I'd rather have fun playing the game, than worry about some pixels.

There's always more lootz around the corner. To get upset (or pissed) about losing some now(while in a pub), seems trivial.

Like I've said, I join pubs for fun. If I go in with nothing, and come out with nothing in my stash, that's fine. Cause I bet I had a fun time playing with others anyways.

As i typed in a previous post and ill clarify:


What can I Spend Points on?
As a test of our microtransaction system, we’re initially offering two small purchases:

Extra Stash Tab (30 Points): Your quota of stash tabs is increased in all leagues. The number of stash tabs is not reset when we enter Open Beta.
Extra Character Slot (30 Points)


At Open Beta, we will have a range of different microtransactions for sale, including many of the following:

Public stash tabs (viewable to other players for trade purposes)
Cosmetic pets
Alternate skill effects
Special animations (for example, taunts or PvP victory animations)
Special paid leagues (with custom game rules)
Guild storage
Alternate item skins and visual effects
Special cosmetic item properties such as “extra gore”
Item dyes

(this is from the PoE website, copy pasted)