today is a sad day for PoE

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Chris wrote:

I've been getting a lot of mail about this from people wanting my opinions. I'm just speaking my mind here and not representing the company.

I don't have any evidence to support the accusations people made against the user, other than the common sense argument that he played a lot of level 77 maps with good mods that he probably didn't find himself. Many came from friends, and people speculate others came from external trades. We've looked into it somewhat and haven't noticed any clear sign of foul play.

I cannot ban people based on rumours and speculation. I wish that the presence of a profile and posts on an external trading forum would be sufficient, but the reality is that people report fake profiles/posts every single day to try to incriminate each other, so we have to rely entirely on what we can see in our own logs.

I'm really reticent to allocate more resources towards this investigation. At the moment the war against RMT consumes a lot of our time and I believe that taking people off fighting botters and spammers to further exhaustively examine his playing history is not a good use of that time.

I understand that the only acceptable thing I can say is "I hate RMT and everyone who engages in it will be crushed", but I'm trying to post a pragmatic real explanation of why we don't instantly ban people who have accusations made against them.

I am extremely pleased with our overall effort against RMT. We have destroyed several item selling sites completely, devastated the supply chain of others and almost entirely eradicated in-game RMT spam. We have more tech in the works that will further help keep the economy clean.

HVR: If you got to 100 using only legitimately obtained maps donated by your friends, then congratulations. That's an amazing accomplishment.

I was asked to lock this thread but have not done so.

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kasub wrote:

They would rather take care of the source of rmt(ingame bots, spam bots, game mechanics encouraging rmt). That's always going to be the better method of dealing with it.

Investigating many specific cases is a huge time sink for minimal results.

It also can take time from game development depending who is doing it. Far more players care about ingame content than rmt.

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Chris wrote:

I've been getting a lot of mail about this from people wanting my opinions. I'm just speaking my mind here and not representing the company.

I don't have any evidence to support the accusations people made against the user, other than the common sense argument that he played a lot of level 77 maps with good mods that he probably didn't find himself. Many came from friends, and people speculate others came from external trades. We've looked into it somewhat and haven't noticed any clear sign of foul play.

I cannot ban people based on rumours and speculation. I wish that the presence of a profile and posts on an external trading forum would be sufficient, but the reality is that people report fake profiles/posts every single day to try to incriminate each other, so we have to rely entirely on what we can see in our own logs.

I'm really reticent to allocate more resources towards this investigation. At the moment the war against RMT consumes a lot of our time and I believe that taking people off fighting botters and spammers to further exhaustively examine his playing history is not a good use of that time.

I understand that the only acceptable thing I can say is "I hate RMT and everyone who engages in it will be crushed", but I'm trying to post a pragmatic real explanation of why we don't instantly ban people who have accusations made against them.

I am extremely pleased with our overall effort against RMT. We have destroyed several item selling sites completely, devastated the supply chain of others and almost entirely eradicated in-game RMT spam. We have more tech in the works that will further help keep the economy clean.

HVR: If you got to 100 using only legitimately obtained maps donated by your friends, then congratulations. That's an amazing accomplishment.

I was asked to lock this thread but have not done so.

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Dragon585 wrote:

I don't get why mods aren't allowed to voice their opinions like the rest of us? If you think for one second that just because the have "mod" under their name that their comments must always represent GGG, you are a fool.

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LennyLen wrote:

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Dragon585 wrote:

Chris, you shouldn't hesitate to allocate more resources in this investigation. It appears to be very important to a lot of us here. Why should we continue to play legit IF someone is able to achieve greatness by cheating and not being caught or punished?

Take a hard stance right here and now. If there was cheating involved, find it and crush it. Show us you mean what you say.

I happen to disagree. There are a lot of other issues that I would rather they focus their resources on.

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Dragon585 wrote:

Chris, you shouldn't hesitate to allocate more resources in this investigation. It appears to be very important to a lot of us here. Why should we continue to play legit IF someone is able to achieve greatness by cheating and not being caught or punished?

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Vandro wrote:

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Dragon585 wrote:

Chris, you shouldn't hesitate to allocate more resources in this investigation. It appears to be very important to a lot of us here. Why should we continue to play legit IF someone is able to achieve greatness by cheating and not being caught or punished?

It appears to be important to a vocal minority. I would not want GGG to spend valuable resources to circumstantial evidence that can't be found in their own log files. GGG should spend those resources to improve their log system and game systems to make sure cheating is harder than it is now.

At the end of the day there is always going to be a level of foul play involved once something becomes competitive, not just in games but also in sports and business practices etc.