today is a sad day for PoE

This thread still going?

Didn't think the alch recipe was that big a deal.

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SL4Y3R wrote:

This thread still going?

Didn't think the alch recipe was that big a deal.

I can't help myself =(
I haz an internet addiction.

HvR almost certainly had "outside help", but you know what the #1 reason he is the first to 100? perseverance. Being #1 to 100 has nothing to do with buying items with real money, its about having the stick-to-it-iveness and a good support background. Lets just say he bought all the best items possible (not saying this happened), he still put in way more work and effort than anyone else.

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

ok, you speak for their opinions yeah? You know what they think about this?

How about Chris GGG you come in here and agree with Charan to end the debate? You gonna let this person and their bitter accusations talk for you GGG? Charan certainly seems to feel like he/she whatever can talk for you openly on the forums when taking part in a group insult of a player, how about you come in here and confirm that Char has said knowledge and the implications being made about your take on these things are correct?

Not sure which part of my signature you're not getting, but I'm sorry that you're struggling with it.

Also, bitter accusations? It's well-known that it's very, VERY difficult to prove RMTing despite what appears to be a logical conclusion.

I do not and never have spoken for GGG, and even if were to, it wouldn't be under this account. :)

no I get your sig, I dont see which part of my issue with it you are not getting. If GGG want to make an issue over HvR they have had ample opportunity to do so, the professional thing to do is deal with it in private with the people concerned. If they are not going to officially intervene then they are bound to treating him with the same respect and rights as any player, even a scammer.

What they shouldnt do is say nd do nothing and allow their little minions to make bitchy hints about their feeling in their sig to basically bash the guy and publically shame him against all their own forum rules, allow threads like this. That is completely unprofesional and makes them look like amatuers with no respect, principals or organisation.

Right now you are making GGG look like shit, you are dragging peoples confidence in them through the dirt, you are making them look like bitchy amateur kids by insinuating that they knew HvR was cheating, didnt know what to do about it and their response was to let him get to 100 and then make snide backhanded comments about him through aliases. Think about that for a moment while you're feeling so smug over there mr connected to the top.

My opinion of this thread:

Who. The. Fuck. Cares.

Why do you all care so much how another person goes about his business?


This entire 16 page thread is full of butt-hurt babies (on both sides) and should have been locked after the first post.


Grats HvR, whoever you are, lvl 100 is a huge achievement no matter HOW its done. Now can we all move on?

edit: I also recommend you go outside and get some well deserved sunlight! (actually that goes for everyone in this thread)

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

I see a vast difference between casting aspersions on a player's reputation based entirely on anecdote and circumstantial 'evidence', and commenting on the fact that the first player to reach 100 did so *significantly quicker* than any dev anticipated, including the typically conservative, realistic Chris.

That is why this thread is still up. It is relevant and not targeting an individual who otherwise has no place in the spotlight.

Something massive has occurred and people will want to talk about it.

Let's talk about it then. GGG's projections were flat out wrong. Way wrong. I'm not sure how they did them (Chris mentioned basing it off CB stats), but I'm guessing they underestimated the level of cooperation vs competition.

GGG might have been envisioning a scenario where there were multiple map groups, each competing for 100, and not sharing maps/wealth with each other. In this situation the groups would be smaller and progress for any single individual would be slower. There would be wars over buying high lvl maps that came on the market.

What actually happened is far different. Via his perseverance and playtime, HvR emerged as the clear frontrunner, and serious competing map groups did not emerge.

By the end, the entire top of the default ladder was one giant map group dedicating to pushing HvR to 100.

So that is pretty extraordinary.

Nah... I don't believe for one second that this "group" of mappers played 100% legit. There is to much personal experience to allow me to think that it is possible to sustain those maps, AND roll them continuously. The amount of currency alone is staggering, not to mention the RNG luck required to continue to get maps.

Maybe you can speak for yourself, but you have no idea if your fellow mappers are using RMT. Just like we have no proof that they were. There is only speculation, and my gut tells me there was some pretty obv cheating going on.

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aimlessgun wrote:

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CharanJaydemyr wrote:

I see a vast difference between casting aspersions on a player's reputation based entirely on anecdote and circumstantial 'evidence', and commenting on the fact that the first player to reach 100 did so *significantly quicker* than any dev anticipated, including the typically conservative, realistic Chris.

That is why this thread is still up. It is relevant and not targeting an individual who otherwise has no place in the spotlight.

Something massive has occurred and people will want to talk about it.

Let's talk about it then. GGG's projections were flat out wrong. Way wrong. I'm not sure how they did them (Chris mentioned basing it off CB stats), but I'm guessing they underestimated the level of cooperation vs competition.

GGG might have been envisioning a scenario where there were multiple map groups, each competing for 100, and not sharing maps/wealth with each other. In this situation the groups would be smaller and progress for any single individual would be slower. There would be wars over buying high lvl maps that came on the market.

What actually happened is far different. Via his perseverance and playtime, HvR emerged as the clear frontrunner, and serious competing map groups did not emerge.

By the end, the entire top of the default ladder was one giant map group dedicating to pushing HvR to 100.

So that is pretty extraordinary.

Or?
They projected those stats without including data from buying Maps and Orbs using real money and forum gold to allow an unlimited supply of maps of whatever level you want?

Lol aimless, just lol

Still trying to fool the community with nonsense :P

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Dragon585 wrote:

Nah... I don't believe for one second that this "group" of mappers played 100% legit. There is to much personal experience to allow me to think that it is possible to sustain those maps, AND roll them continuously. The amount of currency alone is staggering, not to mention the RNG luck required to continue to get maps.

Maybe you can speak for yourself, but you have no idea if your fellow mappers are using RMT. Just like we have no proof that they were. There is only speculation, and my gut tells me there was some pretty obv cheating going on.

Aimless ran with these top players since they are all one big group sharing maps(and ultimately getting hvr the top position). hvr did the same. Indeed it's all baseless accusations against hvr. The only real "proof" is someone claiming to be in the top 10 who accused many of using RMT yet said hvr isn't one of them.

This topic is no better than the typical shame topic. It's just a group of people insulting an individual based on pure speculation. Some moderators chose to endorse that.

I don't get why mods aren't allowed to voice their opinions like the rest of us? If you think for one second that just because the have "mod" under their name that their comments must always represent GGG, you are a fool.