today is a sad day for PoE
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I really wish I could post links to some of his boosting slaves :(
Anyways, it is rather apparent GGG did not take certain variables into consideration. This much we know. P.S. to all the people who keep claiming this thread had anything to do with HvR directly. You're wrong. The sad thing to me is that nothing has been done about certain members in his group. The people who "paved the way" so the speak. I could give less than a rats ass about someone reaching 100. Gz for him. However, the fact remains that GGG did nothing to stop his jsp slaves. The people who bought maps with FG. Hell, one of them posted in this thread several times. Did HvR know? Impossible to say. Should he have known? Or at least been suspicious? Yes. What we do know is that most likely, he didn't care. This is the part I find sad. Aimless, you are guilty of this yourself. I would be hard pressed to believe that someone from CB didn't for a second even wonder how ome of tthese players are getting such a vast amount of currency in order to constantly mod maps. Not only that, that they have amazing gear as well. PoE endgame has always been a give a take. Do I mod maps, or get better gear? It seems these players did both with ferocity. There was only take, and never any give. This is the part that is impossible. |
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" well according to 'those who speak for GGG but officially dont speak for GGG' among us, of whom there are a few, map groups were not even supposed to exist and the mapping system was never designed to be played in a sustainable fashion. Of course that completely contradicts a number of other official statements, when you gather a list of all the official and unofficial (but official cause I know the devs k) takes on this game there are so many contradictions from all sides on every issue it's hard to know what the real expectations and designs were for anything. Off the record you cant disagree with Charan cause Charan knows the Devs and a word from Charan is as if Chris had come to your house and a told you in person but officially Charan doesn't speak for the Devs so can get away with acting like a child and spewing baseless accusations at anyone (nudge nudge wink wink, alright chris? wink wink). I dont really know if I want to take part in this game anymore, if someone in the southern hemisphere has something to say why dont you come in here and say it? This is a complete disgrace that the first lvl 100 has been allowed to come to this and its not really the Devs with principal and integrity that I thought were sailing this ship tbh. Disappointed. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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" What is even more sad to me, is that this wasn't investigated when it became apparent that someone was reaching the level cap far sooner than intended. DISCLAIMER!
The views and expressed opinions of Dragon are solely those of a drunken redneck and are not necessarily those of a sane person. Any likeness of intelligence is strictly coincidental and should not be taken seriously. His posts should not be read... by anyone. |
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I've been getting a lot of mail about this from people wanting my opinions. I'm just speaking my mind here and not representing the company.
I don't have any evidence to support the accusations people made against the user, other than the common sense argument that he played a lot of level 77 maps with good mods that he probably didn't find himself. Many came from friends, and people speculate others came from external trades. We've looked into it somewhat and haven't noticed any clear sign of foul play. I cannot ban people based on rumours and speculation. I wish that the presence of a profile and posts on an external trading forum would be sufficient, but the reality is that people report fake profiles/posts every single day to try to incriminate each other, so we have to rely entirely on what we can see in our own logs. I'm really reticent to allocate more resources towards this investigation. At the moment the war against RMT consumes a lot of our time and I believe that taking people off fighting botters and spammers to further exhaustively examine his playing history is not a good use of that time. I understand that the only acceptable thing I can say is "I hate RMT and everyone who engages in it will be crushed", but I'm trying to post a pragmatic real explanation of why we don't instantly ban people who have accusations made against them. I am extremely pleased with our overall effort against RMT. We have destroyed several item selling sites completely, devastated the supply chain of others and almost entirely eradicated in-game RMT spam. We have more tech in the works that will further help keep the economy clean. HVR: If you got to 100 using only legitimately obtained maps donated by your friends, then congratulations. That's an amazing accomplishment. I was asked to lock this thread but have not done so. Lead Developer. Follow us on: [url url="http://www.twitter.com/pathofexile"]Twitter[/url] | [url url="http://www.youtube.com/grindinggear"]YouTube[/url] | [url url="http://www.facebook.com/pathofexile"]Facebook[/url] | Contact [url url="http://www.pathofexile.com/support"]Support[/url] if you need help!
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" I don't mind their opinions. It's about the bias when dealing with different topics that break the same rule. This topic used vague language in the 1st post so the OP can claim he isn't naming and shaming. It's extremely obvious and all posts after that are about hvr. A moderator clearly saw the intention of the topic but argues that people want to discuss it and of course he shares the sentiment of the opening post. Do note all these posts are pure speculation compared to the typical scamming post that has many people confirming it. No one here honestly knows what hvr does. All people keep claiming is that some other people do it in the top 20. If someone has any kind of evidence then they should contact support instead of making a topic that is one big circlejerk. Last edited by kasub#2910 on May 20, 2013, 11:29:09 PM
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good work!
The rest of the 'end-game' content will be available along with a heap of new stuff when the game launches in a few months time. From what I've seen it's going to be awesome. - Michael_GGG
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Chris, you shouldn't hesitate to allocate more resources in this investigation. It appears to be very important to a lot of us here. Why should we continue to play legit IF someone is able to achieve greatness by cheating and not being caught or punished?
Take a hard stance right here and now. If there was cheating involved, find it and crush it. Show us you mean what you say. DISCLAIMER! The views and expressed opinions of Dragon are solely those of a drunken redneck and are not necessarily those of a sane person. Any likeness of intelligence is strictly coincidental and should not be taken seriously. His posts should not be read... by anyone. Last edited by Dragon585#3483 on May 20, 2013, 11:32:44 PM
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Thanks, Chris. Glad to see you have a level head about this.
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" I happen to disagree. There are a lot of other issues that I would rather they focus their resources on. |
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" They would rather take care of the source of rmt(ingame bots, spam bots, game mechanics encouraging rmt). That's always going to be the better method of dealing with it. Investigating many specific cases is a huge time sink for minimal results. It also can take time from game development depending who is doing it. Far more players care about ingame content than rmt. Last edited by kasub#2910 on May 20, 2013, 11:34:56 PM
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