today is a sad day for PoE

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odin7 wrote:
Nope.. don't care how HvR got there. Congrats to him. All others whining about how he got there before them need to suck it up. Never seen so many 25+ grown men crying about a video game.

Chris came on here and said there is no suspicion in regards to this player. What more do you guys want? Tour of the office? Screen caps of said investigation? Server logs? LOL. Some hurt ego's in this thread.


Ditto.

They've investigated. Time to move on.

Player reached 100. That's a huge feat.
The rest of the 'end-game' content will be available along with a heap of new stuff when the game launches in a few months time. From what I've seen it's going to be awesome. - Michael_GGG
Chris says there has been a lot of progress on the RMT front
I would like to learn more! very pleased.

please post more updates and progress reports regarding pretty
much anything you guys are working on GGG, I like the manifesto
and want to see more!
End of the day Dragon585, we have to take Chris at his word... it's all we got and he's been straight with us the entire time I've been around (as far as I know).

I agree with your p.o.v., but unless any evidence comes to light... I agree with Peachi, that GGG's resources are better used for improving PoE and continuing with their goals (i'm paraphrasing a little, forgive me).

The only ppl who can shed light on this outside of GGG are those with "evidence" (if any exists). Let them come forth or let this be done and let us move on to the "secret-awesomeness" we've been promised for the end of May :)
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I agree, there is a lot of good to take away from Chris' exceptionally well written statement regarding all this.

Is there an official stance on using d2jsp as it has been stated by a forum mod that d2jsp does not necessarily equal using RMT.
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the decision to allow the top player on your ladder to be treated with less respect and rights than a scammer or an orb seller and allowing your moderators along with members of the community who insinuate they are connected with you to take part in such things is a complete disgrace, Im sorry but that's just beyond a joke. This thread should have been locked from the word go, the very act of not doing so is sending a message, a message which you are too scared to just come out and say but is amde obvious by your lack of actions, a despicable thing to see from a dev team I actually had real respect for.
I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)
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odin7 wrote:


Chris came on here and said there is no suspicion in regards to this player. What more do you guys want? Tour of the office? Screen caps of said investigation? Server logs? LOL. Some hurt ego's in this thread.


Wait a minute. I don't particularly have an opinion about this whole mess, but let's not misquote Chris here. He didn't say there's no suspicion. He said there's no *evidence* and that they've only investigated it only "somewhat". Quoting him:

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I don't have any evidence to support the accusations people made against the user, other than the common sense argument that he played a lot of level 77 maps with good mods that he probably didn't find himself. Many came from friends, and people speculate others came from external trades. We've looked into it somewhat and haven't noticed any clear sign of foul play.


And then he says that to investigate it thoroughly, he'd have to divert people to do that, and he's reluctant to do so. But nowhere does he say there is no suspicion.
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Snorkle_uk wrote:
the decision to allow the top player on your ladder to be treated with less respect and rights than a scammer or an orb seller and allowing your moderators along with members of the community who insinuate they are connected with you to take part in such things is a complete disgrace, Im sorry but that's just beyond a joke. This thread should have been locked from the word go, the very act of not doing so is sending a message, a message which you are too scared to just come out and say but is amde obvious by your lack of actions, a despicable thing to see from a dev team I actually had real respect for.


this is a democracy.

people have opinions. And can have opinions.

there is nothing wrong with this thread.
The rest of the 'end-game' content will be available along with a heap of new stuff when the game launches in a few months time. From what I've seen it's going to be awesome. - Michael_GGG
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Dragon585 wrote:
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LennyLen wrote:


Unfortunately, that will be as effective as police efforts to stop the drug trade by targeting buyers.


And if drug laws weren't enforced? All laws for that matter.


You're missing the point. While police do sometimes arrest people for drug use, they only do so because they have to. They learnt along time ago that they need to target the suppliers, not the buyers. There will ALWAYS be buyers , and for every one that is caught, there will be another to replace them in no time. There are nowhere near as many people with the resources to sell drugs.

And the analogy works here as well. People will always want to get ahead and will happily pay a few dollars to do so. It is impossible to remove the demand. The solution then is to remove the supply.
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this is a democracy.

people have opinions. And can have opinions.

there is nothing wrong with this thread.


That's actually false. Companies don't run on a democracy.

People have opinions about scammers too and have actual evidence quite often. Those get locked swiftly. I honestly don't know why Chris is keeping this topic unlocked, there isn't much of a good discussion going on. His response answers everything people need to know.
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tobes111 wrote:
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LennyLen wrote:
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Dragon585 wrote:
Chris, you shouldn't hesitate to allocate more resources in this investigation. It appears to be very important to a lot of us here. Why should we continue to play legit IF someone is able to achieve greatness by cheating and not being caught or punished?

Take a hard stance right here and now. If there was cheating involved, find it and crush it. Show us you mean what you say.


I happen to disagree. There are a lot of other issues that I would rather they focus their resources on.


Such as....


Buying more servers for worldwide deployment. Producing more game content. Fixing bugs. Finishing the extra forum features not yet in place. Finishing the features required for paid leagues...

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