My experience in this game has been nothing but negative and harassive.

LOL

this community is one of the better ones overall.

You are REALLY comparing this community to dota and league's?


LOL


no.
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mkmaddage wrote:

Lol xD Overreaction, guy. I thought I was the only fool just looking for arguments instead of actual discussion.

My "over the top" reaction (wtf... read the forums if you want to see "over the top" reaction) was merely a response to the absolutely ridiculous claim that anyone who doesn't agree with you is lying and inhuman - I've seen that overreaction too much lately. I know you're a sensible human being so I know that you're only trolling when you argue that point.

Lingering tendrils of guilt... meh... get a real point. I don't rise to kids looking for fights - give me an actual, intellectual fight with the adult you and I'm ya man brah.


Please explain to me how 'stealing loot allocated to someone else' can not generate feelings of guilt?
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Cronk wrote:
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mkmaddage wrote:

Lol xD Overreaction, guy. I thought I was the only fool just looking for arguments instead of actual discussion.

My "over the top" reaction (wtf... read the forums if you want to see "over the top" reaction) was merely a response to the absolutely ridiculous claim that anyone who doesn't agree with you is lying and inhuman - I've seen that overreaction too much lately. I know you're a sensible human being so I know that you're only trolling when you argue that point.

Lingering tendrils of guilt... meh... get a real point. I don't rise to kids looking for fights - give me an actual, intellectual fight with the adult you and I'm ya man brah.

Please explain to me how 'stealing loot allocated to someone else' can not generate feelings of guilt?

It can only generate feelings of guilt if the ninja in question views the action as objectively 'wrong' in some way. Some feel - quite justifiably - that, as the mechanic allows for and actively promotes this type of gameplay, they have nothing to feel guilty about because they are simply playing the game as intended.

If you are saying that, in general, people don't like this system and it therefore generates more negative feeling than an allocated system would, I would tend to agree (though, as I have no idea of the actual stats for this, I wouldn't proclaim it as a given). But that is why I react to people saying "if you like this, you're not human / you're lying / whatever other accusations arise" - because that is an unfounded, unreasonable extrapolation; the real discussion is not whether it's right or wrong to like the system, it's whether it's right or wrong to change the system to suit what may be the majority or whether it's better to maintain the integrity of the original design goals of the game for the niche audience who like it.
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mkmaddage wrote:

It can only generate feelings of guilt if the ninja in question views the action as objectively 'wrong' in some way. Some feel - quite justifiably - that, as the mechanic allows for and actively promotes this type of gameplay, they have nothing to feel guilty about because they are simply playing the game as intended.

If you are saying that, in general, people don't like this system and it therefore generates more negative feeling than an allocated system would, I would tend to agree (though, as I have no idea of the actual stats for this, I wouldn't proclaim it as a given). But that is why I react to people saying "if you like this, you're not human / you're lying / whatever other accusations arise" - because that is an unfounded, unreasonable extrapolation; the real discussion is not whether it's right or wrong to like the system, it's whether it's right or wrong to change the system to suit what may be the majority or whether it's better to maintain the integrity of the original design goals of the game for the niche audience who like it.


I didn't bring the concept of 'like' into my 'offending' paragraph. I stated a simple fact. Stealing something allocated to someone else is a wrong. Enacting a wrong generates a sense of guilt. That is a human process. That's not a debatable concept, it's a core element of an emotion. In war, soldiers are permitted to kill people, they are permitted guiltless killing. However, even soldiers consider someone to be 'a bit on the edge' if they do not pertain to feelings of natural guilt while performing their duties.

You are free to 'like' the system, but I do not understand why anyone would argue is a system which doesn't generate feelings of guilt. Perhaps you are 'a bit on the edge'?
So much QQ because of loot, fucking Item N****
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tadl wrote:
So much QQ because of loot, fucking Item N****


In English please?
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Cronk wrote:
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tadl wrote:
So much QQ because of loot, fucking Item N****


In English please?

Ooh, hangman!

I'm going straight for the answer: Nazis

Let me know what I won.
IGN: JediMindHax
If you don't enjoy playing the game, then it should do you no harm not to play it.

It's not gonna hurt any of us or you for you to quit, so there's no sense making "threats" like "I'll quit if you can't convince me there's good people playing"
i too fas fo youuuuuuu
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ROFL, dat name. :D
I am the light of the morning and the shadow on the wall, I am nothing and I am all.
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Cronk wrote:
Please explain to me how 'stealing loot allocated to someone else' can not generate feelings of guilt?


Why would you feel guilty for taking an item that dropped on the ground?

If I'm in party with a friend, and an orb drops that isn't highlighted and he doesn't see it, then I'll say, 'orb for you', and he'll pick it up and say "thanks man".

If I'm in party with a bunch of strangers and that happens, I'm going to wait till the timer expires and then grab it, and I wouldn't feel guilty, because I'd expect anyone else to do the exact same thing.

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