A realization about Path Of Exile economy, from watching Streamers

I have never felt the need to play POE to get rich. I trade when I need or want and have sold some 20-50ex items. They are rare for me, because most of the time I am just playing to have fun. When I need to get some currency, I will farm and get get either the currency or high tier stuff to trade. If you feel that you need to get rich to do great, that is up to you.

I did a few characters on SSF and it was fun and beat the game. However I like the standard or HC league where I can use or not use trading. Never felt the need to be rich though. Now if I wanted to build one of the multi-mirror builds, sure that would be impossible unless I farmed hard from the start. I just don't care.

I have been here since Closed Beta and I still have fun. I am not a huge fan of the zoom zoom mechanics, but do a character for farming. Then again I am doing a mana guardian right now and he is anything but fast, but he can face tank just about anything in the league.

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6_din_49 wrote:

You can make profit without playing in first week, if you know what to sell. For example a 780%+ Facebreaker is 30+ chaos, if uncorrupted. That's because top end farmers are not even bothering to pick up / identify those, as most rolls are less then 1 chaos.

Also, there are items which get more expensive as the league progresses, like chayula's pure breach stones, items with rare combinations of mods good for specific builds, uber elder fragments, etc. You can make a lot of profit by simply running shaper guardian maps, collecting the fragments, killing shaper, then selling the resulted uber-elder fragments. There's no RNG involved if using this method - fragments are guaranteed to drop.

You arent gonna get through to people like the OP. They just wanna whine about being broke in a game they dont even play. No amount of help or logic is gonna get through to that.

I dont like to use the word entitled, because it gets overused too often, but this is it. They wanna beat the entire game, A8 sirius, Uber, Simulacrums, etc. playing some wonky Juggernaut Resolute Technique Spectral shield throw on a 5Link while only playing 5 hours a week in a loot-based Arpg.

And when that isnt possible, somehow its the GGG and all the rich players keeping them down.

This is a linear progression Loot Arpg. There has to be milestones, carrots, and reasons to play for people who actually play the game. If you could beat the entire game on zero playtime and zero gear, what reason is there to keep playing?

Its even ironic seeing this post, in one of the easiest leagues imaginable to make currency in. Like, you can just go run white maps and make currency. Not only that, a lot of weak builds are ok, thanks to stacking cluster jewels. It dont have to be voices/aura spam; a lot of builds benefit from clusters. And thats something thats probably gonna change next league.

I honestly dont even know what it is they want. Like, whats the outcome? Easier game so you can beat all the end-game content 5 hours after hitting maps? Before you even have gear? Is that the pinnacle of PoE gameplay thats missing?

Anyways, this has been a funny thread.

Now you made me angry, Destructodave.
You think I want the game to be easy? You call me "entitled"?
The fuck am I doing here since Open Beta, then?

No.

If anyone has it easy, it is you and your "rich" friends.
Infinite boss attempts. Low stakes. Fights that are over in seconds, and are zero risk by the power of mirror tier gear and 99 billion Shaper DPS.

Are you a better player than me? Not necessarily. You don't need to be better at playing the actual game when "currency" allows you to bypass so much of it's challenges.

Are you a better trader and "stock broker"? For sure you are.
Everybody is a better trader than me. I fucking hate trade.

Why does it bother me? Not because I want your orbs and your Headhunter and your 700 DPS Foil.
I do, but not yours. I want to find mine, eventually.

But this carrot of getting great gear and having access to tough bosses and challenges, is constantly moving away from me - because of you.
Because GGG look at you and say "hmm... He killed a Guardian in 6 seconds. Let's make the Guardian's HP ten times more, and give him more one-shot moves, and require collecting 200 splinters to unlock the fight instead of 20".
And then you say "cool. A one minute fight".
And then I say "fuck my life I should quit".

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Implying that boss won't be "balanced" into Streamer tier, and next bunch of splinters won't require 200% more grind - if I play SSF?

It's not about the Streamers and Tycoons in a league's economy.
It's about how GGG uses Streamers and Tycoons as a benchmark to "top-tier balance" the entire game.
All of it.

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johnKeys wrote:

Implying that boss won't be "balanced" into Streamer tier, and next bunch of splinters won't require 200% more grind - if I play SSF?

It's not about the Streamers and Tycoons in a league's economy.
It's about how GGG uses Streamers and Tycoons as a benchmark to "top-tier balance" the entire game.
All of it.

if it really was for top tier streamer it would actually be way more harder than it is right now.
and i'd like that tbh
or give a way to scale awakening level past 8 would be cool too

Yeah sure. And have Sirus 16 drop Mirrors.
And remove all loot from Sirus <16.
So I either grind Conquerors 10000 times to unlock the fight one time, and then immediately get shat on with 5 million damage attacks that have 100% penetration.
Or I pay you for a carry.

Sounds fucking amazing.

Dude take a break or something,
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I'm starting to think people are [Removed by Support] searching for excuses instead of grinding in a grinding game FOR FUN.

No fun = stop playing

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johnKeys wrote:

Yeah sure. And have Sirus 16 drop Mirrors.
And remove all loot from Sirus <16.
So I either grind Conquerors 10000 times to unlock the fight one time, and then immediately get shat on with 5 million damage attacks that have 100% penetration.
Or I pay you for a carry.

Sounds fucking amazing.

Those who stands shall never outnumber those who kneel

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johnKeys wrote:

Yeah sure. And have Sirus 16 drop Mirrors.
And remove all loot from Sirus <16.
So I either grind Conquerors 10000 times to unlock the fight one time, and then immediately get shat on with 5 million damage attacks that have 100% penetration.
Or I pay you for a carry.

Sounds fucking amazing.

Tinfoil hat time:

Maybe GGG realizes they've shit the bed with powercreep, the economy and everything else but have no urge to disturb the cash generator POE has become for them by implementing a hard-reset on anything and pissing off the whales.

That's why POE2 is a thing. It's an opportunity to press the reset button and rein in some of what has gotten out of control with their creation, a chance to level the playing field.

Crazy, right?