Pros and Cons - Death Penalty

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Wladicorist1 wrote:
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Anonymous1749704 wrote:
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Wladicorist1 wrote:
of course im going to die lol


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im not playing a glass cannon


WAT.

yeah, you are.
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@vmt80 Anyone on the trek to level 100 has to anticipate death. Either they "git gud" and stop dying, or they play less challenging content. Either one works. The rules though didn't change. The severity of the penalty did.

@MortalKombat3 Not losing levels is a good thing, it adds a carrot to the stick of the death penalty. It makes it more bearable. If it were easier to get your xp back at level 95+ I might not mind losing levels though. With the current system though, yeah, fuck that shit.
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Wladicorist1 wrote:


i dont refuse
robmafia was blaming me for playing without defenses
but refuses to give me a look on his profile or any tips to survive better


i literally listed appx 10 different "tips."

yes, you do refuse. just as you refuse to even acknowledge the fact that you received numerous "tips" regarding armor, granite, basalt, block, max res, dodge...

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

changing one or two flasks wont help me that much against a one shot ...


WAT


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Wladicorist1 wrote:

what do i have to wear then? kaoms heart? i have one and still the 2k evasion from my current chest removes like 6k of my evasion ...


WAT

your acrobatics already cut your evasion to shreds.

also, no one said to use a kaom's. except you. because you STILL think that defense = hp

i don't have much more hp than you. i am pretty much infinitely tankier than you.

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Wladicorist1 wrote:
your opinion is that its not a balance problem
mine is that it is a balance problem

are we done ?


WAT
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Last edited by robmafia#7456 on Oct 25, 2018, 4:01:51 PM
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SisterBlister wrote:

I see it as a positive effect of the dp:
1. Every once in a while, you get to go ham "for free" (except for the other losses: delve, lab, portal). This change of pace makes the game less monotonous.
2. And all the time, you need to make a choice: Do I run this high IIQ but dangerous map now or do I play it safe and wait till I've dinged the next level? This causes some tension and also some anticipation of joy. Both positives.

So hell no, those are good things to have! Keep your masochist suggestions to yourself, unless they would affect only you and not everybody else as well.


Hmm, it's just a matter of mentality, probably.
I see XP and level in different way, than the majority of PoE players. For me, losing 1-2 level isnt that big deal. It's just a loss of few stats, no more.
Sure, losing ability to use items and gems is kinda bad, but it could be solved making level loss occur only past 75 level.

For me, farming gazillion of same maps to get 100 level looks FAR more "masochistic", to be honest
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That is not power
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robmafia wrote:


yes, you do refuse. just as you refuse to even acknowledge the fact that you received numerous "tips" regarding armor, granite, basalt, block, max res, dodge...

He has dodge, and armor on the right hand side of the tree is...rare?
Aror flasks without massive investment in armor are also quite useless, he can well live without 300 damage reduction. There is also not much block for bow characters. And block does not save you from being one-shot. You are not playing ranger, right?


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your acrobatics already cut your evasion to shreds.

Acrobatics does not effect evasion. Go, check. Now. You are not playing ranger, right?

Neither acrobatics, nor evasion is helping you against one-shots, though. if it goes through, you are dead.

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also, no one said to use a kaom's. except you. because you STILL think that defense = hp

On the right hand side of the tree, life is the only thing that saves you from a one-shot.

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i don't have much more hp than you. i am pretty much infinitely tankier than you.

You are not playing ranger, right?
Last edited by UlfgardLeo#1382 on Oct 25, 2018, 6:10:39 PM
i forgot that acrobatics was changed and doesn't cut evasion anymore.

that's the only thing i missed, though.



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And block does not save you from being one-shot.


WAT

ok, if you're going to try to take up this guy's argument, please read the posts it's about. here's the main one:

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robmafia wrote:
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i dont refuse dude ...
youre just telling me always the same crap in every post you do ...
ok tell me concrete what do i have to change???


there's like up to 20 things.

for starters, you don't even use a basalt/granite flask. you have no phys mitigation at all, you don't use fortify, you don't have very good resistances, you have 0 block, your dodge is only 40/30 (and that cut your eva, since it's solely via acrobatics keystones), you don't use flasks to boost your res.

you think that hp = defense... and it's only 5k hp, at that.

yeah, you're going to die. a lot.

and yes, you refuse to use defense.


and am i missing something (i might, i don't play ele hit/avatar builds), or is there a/no reason to use call of the brotherhood with avatar of fire?

your build is 100% based on fire damage from close range (chin sol and point blank). and you have no defense. again, you're going to die.
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Last edited by robmafia#7456 on Oct 25, 2018, 6:22:20 PM
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robmafia wrote:
i forgot that acrobatics was changed and doesn't cut evasion anymore.

that's the only thing i missed, though.



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And block does not save you from being one-shot.


WAT

ok, if you're going to try to take up this guy's argument, please read the posts it's about. here's the main one:

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robmafia wrote:
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i dont refuse dude ...
youre just telling me always the same crap in every post you do ...
ok tell me concrete what do i have to change???


there's like up to 20 things.

for starters, you don't even use a basalt/granite flask. you have no phys mitigation at all, you don't use fortify, you don't have very good resistances, you have 0 block, your dodge is only 40/30 (and that cut your eva, since it's solely via acrobatics keystones), you don't use flasks to boost your res.

you think that hp = defense... and it's only 5k hp, at that.

yeah, you're going to die. a lot.

and yes, you refuse to use defense.


and am i missing something (i might, i don't play ele hit/avatar builds), or is there a/no reason to use call of the brotherhood with avatar of fire?

your build is 100% based on fire damage from close range (chin sol and point blank). and you have no defense. again, you're going to die.



ok facts

https://imgur.com/gSIngWh

in case you didnt read it

also ...
check https://clips.twitch.tv/SpunkyCuriousAnacondaDerp

WAT?????

dude youre talking garbage
i wanna retract my claim towards your "assistance"...
also hp=defense not "defense=hp"
you wanted me to get armor or something? on a ranger?? are you mad??
also i tried it with granite and stibnite flask to
seems like you have no idea about rangers ...


ps: edited because you seem not to knew that acrobatic changed ...


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Last edited by Wladicorist1#5599 on Oct 25, 2018, 7:19:06 PM
tl;dr:


YOU HAVE NO PHYS MITIGATION.
YOU HAVE POOR RESISTANCES.


i keep saying this over and over and then expanding to armor/flasks/block/dodge/etc, but the above 2 is a basic summary.

i never once said or implied that hp is defense. YOU keep saying it is.

you don't have enough dodge. if you have no armor/basalt, you basically need ele conversion for phys mitigation. but your resists also seem to be 75 tops, so you'd probably also want better resists.

as for flasks, rumi's.

also, *laughs in iron reflexes*

additionally, you're a deadeye but using point blank AND chin sol - implying that you're trying to engage from close range. ie: you're going to get hit more often by being in range of monsters more than a standard/far shot deadeye.
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Last edited by robmafia#7456 on Oct 25, 2018, 7:31:14 PM
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robmafia wrote:
i forgot that acrobatics was changed and doesn't cut evasion anymore.

that's the only thing i missed, though.



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And block does not save you from being one-shot.


WAT

ok, if you're going to try to take up this guy's argument, please read the posts it's about. here's the main one:

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robmafia wrote:
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i dont refuse dude ...
youre just telling me always the same crap in every post you do ...
ok tell me concrete what do i have to change???


there's like up to 20 things.

for starters, you don't even use a basalt/granite flask. you have no phys mitigation at all, you don't use fortify, you don't have very good resistances, you have 0 block, your dodge is only 40/30 (and that cut your eva, since it's solely via acrobatics keystones), you don't use flasks to boost your res.

you think that hp = defense... and it's only 5k hp, at that.

yeah, you're going to die. a lot.

and yes, you refuse to use defense.


and am i missing something (i might, i don't play ele hit/avatar builds), or is there a/no reason to use call of the brotherhood with avatar of fire?

your build is 100% based on fire damage from close range (chin sol and point blank). and you have no defense. again, you're going to die.



ok facts

https://imgur.com/gSIngWh

where does acrobatics cut my evasion to shreds???

also ...
check https://clips.twitch.tv/SpunkyCuriousAnacondaDerp

WAT?????

dude youre talking garbage
i wanna retract my claim towards your "assistance"...

dude show me how you build a ranger then talk big mouth ...
instead of spying on my profile mr tanky

"There are Penalties in the Game, no one's complaining about them"
Chris Wilson Exilecon 2019
you literally quoted me saying i forgot that acrobatics was changed. twice.

as for "spying" on you, you literally asked me to check your deadeye:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:


tell me how to improve with my dead eye
and not losing all my dps??

comeon tell me :)
you want to give me some ideas with 10k hp and 10k dps??


and:

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Wladicorist1 wrote:

youre just telling me always the same crap in every post you do ...
ok tell me concrete what do i have to change???
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Last edited by robmafia#7456 on Oct 25, 2018, 7:48:21 PM

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