In all seriousness, is 9k life as hard to get as 25k ES?

Quite sure it isn't possible without Kaom's. And if you have Kaom's, you need two-handed weapon. Or you don't, since you're going to be investing all of your points into HP already, so forget about doing damage. :P Unless RF, ofc.

Or getting armor/evasion. Which is (supposedly) the pro of having life build. :@
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Last edited by Perq on May 18, 2017, 3:09:56 AM
Yes Kaoms is the build limiter Kaoms is the key Kaoms is King Kaoms roarrrr!!!
9k life is much more affordable, since it "only" takes a Belly and a strength-based build. 25k ES is only obtainable for what, low-life Guardians ? That's a huge investment.
small reminder that life builds usually need to invest a little into chaos resist too, which ES builds tend to ignore.
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For most life builds apart from maybe GS EA you need to invest half of your points to damage nodes to be able to scratch uber/t16+.


Are we ignoring the fact that in order to get 9k life you will have like 100dps,or we're all supposed to play berserkers so we can have high damage and life? With old VP you need like 8k ES and pump everything in damage,and there is where the problem lies.

"But life got armor and evasion to protect it"
B.please...Useless mechanics that only work against useless trash,which in 2k17 die by the screen with only one button press.

Its so easy to spot people that have no clue. All you need is to read the title.

Sorry if i sound offensive but you seem to be pretty determined in showing how life is not so bad compared to ES,but keep ignoring everything else.
Last edited by Kasapnica on May 18, 2017, 5:29:35 AM
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Are we ignoring the fact that in order to get 9k life you will have like 100dps,or we're all supposed to play berserkers so we can have high damage and life? With old VP you need like 8k ES and pump everything in damage,and there is where the problem lies.

"But life got armor and evasion to protect it"
B.please...Useless mechanics that only work against useless trash,which in 2k17 die by the screen with only one button press.

Its so easy to spot people that have no clue. All you need is to read the title.

Sorry if i sound offensive but you seem to be pretty determined in showing how life is not so bad compared to ES,but keep ignoring everything else.


Not true at all. Strength = Phys damage. RT = 100% chance to hit. Iron Grip / Iron Will = convert str bonus to projectiles / spells.


My pure str / life / armour Juggernaut in the making is having no problems with DPS with barely and damage nodes.

This shield block + life leech / regen / evasion character is far more tankier / surviable / faster clear speed than my ES crit witch I posted in a similar thread:



And with only 4.5k life vs <9k ES, and still has bloodless + profane chemistry left to take for life, should reach 5K+ life soon.

Based on that, my marauder should easily reach 6-7k+ life.
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Last edited by bhavv on May 18, 2017, 5:40:18 AM
Try that on Shaper or anything else with one-shots and come back.
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Try that on Shaper or anything else with one-shots and come back.


My ES witch cant even do T8 maps without dying while my blocker can, so I dont see why thats comparable.

Neither will be capable of soloing shaper.

The blocker barely takes any hits. My witch takes every hit from unfreezable bosses. Huge difference in survivability.

The only thing my 600%+ crit multi ES witch is good for is farming dried lake.
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Last edited by bhavv on May 18, 2017, 5:43:22 AM
Well, then I have no idea why you are speaking whenever this change is good or not. You clearly have no clue how to handle the game, or how the game works.
Not that I think that your feedback is useless, but it doesn't really matter end-game wise. More in directions of proper tutorials, and so on.

Btw, I'm pretty sure there are dozen of people who'd take on Shaper with ~8k ES, deathless.
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