In all seriousness, is 9k life as hard to get as 25k ES?

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Demonoz wrote:

He runs around with 16K Life on his build and it actually has enough damage to do T15 content... But it also takes him about 45 mins to over an hour to do a single map.

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VigilanteCat wrote:

So in light of the ES gutting, I decided to make a high life tank as best I could on a modest budget just to see how I would fare in preparation for 3.0. Here are my results so far:

TLDR: Pretty easy 9k life with Kaom's, Marauder class and the right build, going to be tough to do for most other builds/classes though

I ultimately landed on a Righteous Fire Juggernaut (obviously), and I'm sitting at 8.6k life at level 88 at the moment. Gear cost under 4ex total and most of that was on my belt and a Kaom's Heart. I'm also using 2x Kaom's Way rings for the regen and I'm still missing life% on a few jewels and T1 life on most slots, so my life total could be quite a bit higher.

So, while I'll likely hit 9k life pretty easily over the next few levels with only moderate overall investment, the damage at the moment is subpar vs. high level map bosses, and I went about as all-in on life as a character can go.

Obviously though, my character is an outlier that was built to be a high life tank for uber lab farming (which he excels at), and since RF scales with life, I didn't need much in the way of damage nodes. I imagine it would cost at least double or maybe triple what I spent to hit my HP numbers and still deal reasonable damage as an attack-based build...aaaannnd you basically need to be a Marauder lol.

Here's to hoping they add some life to the right side of the tree and buff the node values a bit so Kaom's doesn't feel so mandatory, and so maybe Rangers and Shadows can get close to those numbers too. *fingers crossed*

Just thought I'd share, thanks for reading!

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golan4840 wrote:

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VigilanteCat wrote:

So in light of the ES gutting, I decided to make a high life tank as best I could on a modest budget just to see how I would fare in preparation for 3.0. Here are my results so far:

TLDR: Pretty easy 9k life with Kaom's, Marauder class and the right build, going to be tough to do for most other builds/classes though

I ultimately landed on a Righteous Fire Juggernaut (obviously), and I'm sitting at 8.6k life at level 88 at the moment. Gear cost under 4ex total and most of that was on my belt and a Kaom's Heart. I'm also using 2x Kaom's Way rings for the regen and I'm still missing life% on a few jewels and T1 life on most slots, so my life total could be quite a bit higher.

So, while I'll likely hit 9k life pretty easily over the next few levels with only moderate overall investment, the damage at the moment is subpar vs. high level map bosses, and I went about as all-in on life as a character can go.

Obviously though, my character is an outlier that was built to be a high life tank for uber lab farming (which he excels at), and since RF scales with life, I didn't need much in the way of damage nodes. I imagine it would cost at least double or maybe triple what I spent to hit my HP numbers and still deal reasonable damage as an attack-based build...aaaannnd you basically need to be a Marauder lol.

Here's to hoping they add some life to the right side of the tree and buff the node values a bit so Kaom's doesn't feel so mandatory, and so maybe Rangers and Shadows can get close to those numbers too. *fingers crossed*

Just thought I'd share, thanks for reading!

Kaoms heart in not a fair comparison, since you lose a 6L. So you are either forced to play with a 2H weapon or use skills that dont require a 6L. ES does not have this limitation, so the fair comparison here is 25K ES vs 9K life WITHOUT KAOMS HEART, and then I would say yes, it is equally hard to achieve both without sacrificing alot of damage.

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bhavv wrote:

Im sure I could manage that with just a belly on a juggernaught.

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adghar wrote:

pretty damn difficult for ordinary players