WOW GGG banned a Master Supporter player

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Pewzor wrote:

Maybe OP was caught by the recent diablo 3 ban wave and didnt want to regrind back to his paragon lv4200 without botting. So he picked up poe and realize how different poe is to D3. Then everything all makes sense.

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Pewzor wrote:

Maybe OP was caught by the recent diablo 3 ban wave and didnt want to regrind back to his paragon lv4200 without botting. So he picked up poe and realize how different poe is to D3. Then everything all makes sense.

Nah just wanted to see what D2 was like without having to endure the nasty 1999 graphics.

This game is still a failure when put against D3, because

A) POE has more botters since its free to play

B) POE has pay to win and is evident by the insane RMT going on in 3rd party sites.

C) POE despite being Free to Play only has 5 million registered users proving yet again that D2 is the gold standard of a 3rd world latrine.

D3

A) D3 has less botters due to no pay to win and the fact you have to buy a new copy everytime.

B) D3 has NO Pay to Win since everything is BOA something the hardcore nerds claim to be the holy grail of ARPG features.

C) D3 despite being a world of warcraft style ARPG created for 12 year olds happened to sell 27 million copies vs POE being free and a carbon copy of the latrine standard D2 only managing to have 5 million.


[Removed by Support]

Aww so salty. Sorry about your D3 account. And welcome to PoE.

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mark1030 wrote:

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xiMy wrote:

Well I am arguing that as soon as I pay for something which is clearly designed as game content I become a customer and have consumer protection laws. Whatever they want to call they product e.g. "supporter pack". I even provided evidence that freemium games are not exempt from this (consumer rights act 2015). Doesn't matter that other people play this game completly for free. My initial statement was that it is not that easy to just ban people and it might be advisable to look into it if you are from the EU.

Does it even matter? Customer protections don't give you immunity do break establishment rules. Has anybody won a lawsuit against a casino that banned them? A paying casino customer that gets caught cheating doesn't get their money back. They don't have legal protection from getting banned from that casino even if they were paying customers.

I find it sad that nobody actually discussed what I mentioned but only focused on what that other guy said about the game and other random stuff which is not exactly related to the topic.

And mark1030 you are wrong - consumer protection does exactly that. If you just "cheat" in an online game you are still entitled to have access to the game in single player unless you break real laws. It might be a bit different for games which only have multiplayer. That I don't know. But I think it still applies to some point. I can't even fathom how would compare buying a game to gambling in a casino. Of course there would be other stuff involved.

So if you're rich you shouldnt have to abide by law?

Ideally rules and laws should apply to everyone equally. Ideally.

your excuse is pretty weak.

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xiMy wrote:

And mark1030 you are wrong - consumer protection does exactly that. If you just "cheat" in an online game you are still entitled to have access to the game in single player unless you break real laws. It might be a bit different for games which only have multiplayer. That I don't know. But I think it still applies to some point. I can't even fathom how would compare buying a game to gambling in a casino. Of course there would be other stuff involved.

Unfortunately, by terms of use we all signed, GGG reserves the right to limit our access to the game in any amount deemed proper, including completely, and for any reason whatsoever, including none. True, I don't think they exercised that right often, but they do have it.

And you may check Bizzard's rights of use too for comparison, it clearly states that your battlenet account is their property and they can terminate it at any time with or without prior notice, fully denying you access to your battlenet account and keeping whatever amount of cash you had on it.

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raics wrote:

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xiMy wrote:

And mark1030 you are wrong - consumer protection does exactly that. If you just "cheat" in an online game you are still entitled to have access to the game in single player unless you break real laws. It might be a bit different for games which only have multiplayer. That I don't know. But I think it still applies to some point. I can't even fathom how would compare buying a game to gambling in a casino. Of course there would be other stuff involved.

Unfortunately, by terms of use we all signed, GGG reserves the right to limit our access to the game in any amount deemed proper, including completely, and for any reason whatsoever, including none. True, I don't think they exercised that right often, but they do have it.

And you may check Bizzard's rights of use too for comparison, it clearly states that your battlenet account is their property and they can terminate it at any time with or without prior notice, fully denying you access to your battlenet account and keeping whatever amount of cash you had on it.

Are you from the US? Because EU law is vastly different. It starts with EULA immediately being void if you can only read it after you purchased the game/licence and also other stuff like language/content being too difficult to understand . Denying access to the game without any reason is also definitely against the law because it sets the costumer at a clear disadvantage.

Another point which from ToS / EULA standpoint was/or still is absolutely impossible:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/258720/eu_court_rules_resale_of_used_software_licenses_is_legal_even_online.html

You see, everything is not as clear as everyone thinks it is. Things are rapidly developing. Especially with the consumer rights act 2015 I already mentioned. I don't know why everyone here just bends over to the poor multi billion dollar companies.

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Just to clarify, Supporter Packs are available to purchase to players who want to support Path of Exile and see it continue to grow. Purchasing Supporter Packs does not in any way exempt someone from abiding by the Terms of Use.

Pretty sure GGG would close their eyes if they see Ziggy doing something forbidden