I've been loving Rampage until I started running with MFers, and seeing how broken MFing still is.

ever since MF was introduced in these games for me (as mostly solo player) the objective is to create a powerful character yet still stack as much MF as possible. Its pretty challenging because theres always upgrades to be made unless you mirror all your gear.

And I think other people agree with me as someone just mirrored this amulet I made.


And I'm thinking to mirror someone elses hybrid MF ring...except I'm thinking to mirror a bow first and that will be my next goal.

But my point is there's basically 3 routes to take..DPS,Hybrid or dedicated MF...unless youre hybrid MF'r-count on playing as a party. Either way it's a choice like said above^^ so no problem here.

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neonive wrote:

ever since MF was introduced in these games for me (as mostly solo player) the objective is to create a powerful character yet still stack as much MF as possible. Its pretty challenging because theres always upgrades to be made unless you mirror all your gear.

And I think other people agree with me as someone just mirrored this amulet I made.

And I'm thinking to mirror someone elses hybrid MF ring...except I'm thinking to mirror a bow first and that will be my next goal.

But my point is there's basically 3 routes to take..DPS,Hybrid or dedicated MF...unless youre hybrid MF'r-count on playing as a party. Either way it's a choice like said above^^ so no problem here.

why do you need mf when you can afford mirrors?

I've usually gotten better luck on my characters that just clear content fast instead of MFing, I find MFing to be fun, but I like to mix between.

MFing allows a certain type of person to enjoy the game his way, not everyone is you, and you should accept that different playstyles should be allowed, and is part of what allows a game that is so niche to still attract a decently sized player based.

There is little to no reason for you who dislikes MF to stop playing because of it, it's simply an avenue available to you that you decide not to take, there are other ways to get money, and with or without MF you would still complain of 'luck' among other things. I played almost a year before getting my first exalted drop and I don't think I've ever had a drop even running MF characters worth over 10ex,or more than 10ex on my person at a time, I don't resent the MF however, it is a playstyle.

Removing MFs is like saying people should nerf HP nodes on the tree because you're tired of building it every game, you build it to survive, but you don't have to, no one is forcing you to.

Allowing as many playstyles as possible is always a good sign, perhaps my only complaint is lack of a suitable way to simply tank (that I could conceive of, I'm sure that someone has good ideas for such, but it seems supporting others to be 'tankier' always takes precedence).

Whats MFing? Ive seen it said in game, but what is it?

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Swagtrain wrote:

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Semune wrote:

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Swagtrain wrote:

THE GAME SHOULD BE THIS WAY BECAUSE ME ME ME

STOP LIKING WHAT I DONT LIKE

MAKE THE GAME HOW I WANT IT GGG BECAUSE I KNOW BEST!

This has nothing to do with whining.

I just think 600% efficiency increase is a little too high. A solo player or a group without a MFer would have to get extremely lucky to not become map starved, MFer groups would have an insanely hard time becoming map starved due to increased map drops, higher map drops, and increased currency gained so they can buy higher maps.

This whole thread... about this... and it turns out you don't even know that rarity and quantity on player gear doesn't effect map drops.

Also, map pools are really much easier to sustain now with FM and the intro of Ambush mod into the core game... like WAY easier than just a month or two ago.

Every single one of your posts in your recent post history is extremely violent and aggressive. Please stay out of this thread, thanks.

In case it wasn't clear, yes quantity from gear does not affect map droprrates. Same applies to groups, they get the same drops as solo mapwise.

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kasub wrote:

In case it wasn't clear, yes quantity from gear does not affect map droprrates. Same applies to groups, they get the same drops as solo mapwise.

Ah okay, I guess I didn't bother researching that.

My point still remains the same, MF is overpowered as all hell, and there's no point in competing in any league without having MF because the difference is massive.

A certain extremely negative person thought my post was ENTIRELY about maps, it's not... it's just one of the points that I was trying to make about MFing being overpowered...

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Semune wrote:

IIQ doesn't affect map drops? Increased ITEM QUANTITY?

Okay.

Every single one of your posts in your recent post history is extremely violent and aggressive. Please stay out of this thread, thanks.

Yes, it doesnt do anything for map drops. It doesnt do anything for chests and strongboxes either.

And while i was not quoted above, and that post sure is hostile, when making a thread on public forums, its out in the open for anyone to comment on. You cant dictate who writes what in "your" thread, unless you can somehow reach through the internet and physically slap someone on the other end of the monitor.

I think the lesson here is, consult google first.

You dont need 400/30 mfer in your party, 200/30 will do.

You see, just because you have seen 40 wondertrash drops in a few maps does not mean MF is broken, it means that there is simply too many uniques in the game. As long as you get any rarity above 100 these are bound to drop.

Have been an MFer in three leagues so far, best unique i have culled is Mjolner. With money that i have made by selling culled rares i could buy ten Mjolners.

Uniques are a trap - i said it once and i will say it again - rares are the main source of income, not uniques.

And getting a good rare is one in a million chance. Sorry but you cant bean RNG with MF, anyone can get a rare that will make them rich, even a guy with -40 rarity.

Over the course of the temporary leagues I've played as both MF and non-MF characters and in the end I think I prefer non-MF ones. MF ones just feel kinda weak and Hybrid is too expensive to gear up. When you add rarity to that life + double res piece it suddenly goes from 1 chaos to 1 exalted.

Ironically the best item I found, a Soul Taker, dropped when I was playing a non-MF character. When the chances are so low they are in the 0.001% even 1000% MF still doesn't really matter much unless it's over a VERY VERY long period of time.