People do realise that Daggers do more damage than 2Handers because of crit right?

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the fix for that is simple 600 dps 2h should be more common.

Like as in being able to craft that missing roll on a solid 2-hander?

Hmm i wonder when that's getting implemented.

Peace,

-Boem-

(also i disagree with your "fix" but it did make me laugh so there is that :p )

because u cant go crit with a 2 hander right?

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axn1314 wrote:

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2 handed AXN crafted item

18% block #1 Crit 752dps STAFF

b/o 1000et or 18 mirror

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axn1314 wrote:

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#1 555pdps Ambusher Dagger with maxed weapon based atk spd

total dagger specific crit on the tree = 190%
min points to get all those nodes = 19


total 2 hander specific crit on tree = 190%
min points to get all those nodes = 7


thats starting from one of the specific crit node and then getting all the others.


2 handers are not favoured because you cant use a shield, for endgame that sketchy as fuck. Why isnt everyone taking down Atziri with staves? Rise Of The Phoenix / Saffells Frame / huge es spell damage shields.

The staff has higher base damage, but high end builds are now hybrid and get a substancial part of their dps from auras, anger and wrath that scale directly with weapon attack speed.
At the end, the damage output is essentially elemental ( because of hatred, anger, wrath and optionnally added fire )

On top of that, crit nodes for dagger are easier to get compared to specific nodes for staff in a crit build.

There is absolutely no reason with today game state to prefer the staff

I never really use 2 hand weapons, but arent' they supposed to be balanced with more sockets linked together, Stun, or something like that?

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Malone wrote:

The staff has higher base damage, but high end builds are now hybrid and get a substancial part of their dps from auras, anger and wrath that scale directly with weapon attack speed.
At the end, the damage output is essentially elemental ( because of hatred, anger, wrath and optionnally added fire )

right, so the reason daggers do more damage than 2 handers is not because of crit, its not because of dagger nodes, its because of elemental auras. The same reason an ele buzzsaw build with an ele foil does more spec throw dps than a phys 2 handed sword.

So the thread should be "people do realise that 1 handers do more damage than 2 handers because of elemental auras right?"

its been that way since ele cleave 16+ months ago.


Dagger nodes are not easier to get, their crit nodes are more spread out than the 2 hander crit nodes in this dagger v 2 hander debate.

Doublepost

I think it's fair if a dagger is better at killing bosses.A big weapon spreads it's damage more so should be better at killing multiple enemies,even the mechanics reflect this with the longer reach.I do say 'should be better' so maybe they should look into making 2h AoE potential higher rather than trying to get it to match single target DPS.

I mean say you were to maximise Cyclones AoE what would be the difference between a dagger and 2H?

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Kavlor wrote:

I think it's fair if a dagger is better at killing bosses.A big weapon spreads it's damage more so should be better at killing multiple enemies,even the mechanics reflect this with the longer reach.I do say 'should be better' so maybe they should look into making 2h AoE potential higher rather than trying to get it to match single target DPS.

I mean say you were to maximise Cyclones AoE what would be the difference between a dagger and 2H?

Every 2H weapon crit should be AOE. That would be badass

2 handers have always been shit. Ive been saying this since day one , the best weapons will the ones with the best base crit and the best attack speed.

Crit has never ever been well balanced in any game i have played. It and attack speed have always been the game breakers.

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Saltychipmunk wrote:

2 handers have always been shit. Ive been saying this since day one , the best weapons will the ones with the best base crit and the best attack speed.

Crit has never ever been well balanced in any game i have played. It and attack speed have always been the game breakers.

It is balanced in League of Legends, and if you haven't played LoL it is your loss.