PoE vs Diablo 2 aka Your opinion on PoE
|
The Diablo 2 experience as you know it :
thousands of viable builds, countless hours exploring dungeons which were all randomly generated except for a few, amazing drops for everyone, the game was perfectly balanced for PvE and PvP, the community enjoyed helping each other, lag free environment, almost no account theft, plenty of content including end game, a strict item based currency that was always fair and consistent. The Diablo 2 experience as it actually happened : 1 viable build (hammerdin), every dungeon was a rehash in every map only about 15% was randomized mostly just the map faced a different way, the drop rate in that game was stupid if you played legit without hacking (the enigma armor that ruined the game needed a Jah rune to start it out... it's drop rate was 0.000205% which means maybe 10 people on USEast found one when enigma came out), the game was extremely unbalanced for PvE and PvP (i.e. hammerdin is the only class that can even stand a chance of soloing hell mode) and PvP only had 1 or 2 viable PvP builds per class, the community (what little there really was when you take in to consideration the number of spam bots and magic find/exp running bots) was generally filled with ignorant children that would on a regular basis do things such as town kill, corpse guard, tppk, hostile and ruin baal/cow/uber runs, the game lagged even with the best internet and cpu set up available and it would consistently get the the door opening sequence while loading you into a game then fail to connect, people would steal items and accounts any way possible ('nudes 4 rush' 'free maphack' 'free dupe' which would end up being a hack to make you drop items 99.99999% of the time), there was never any real end game content since anything Blizzard put out would be destroyed in a couple of hours due to all the duped items people had (like runes to make runewords), and lets talk in game currency... sojs, high end runes, 3/20/20s now would you like them to be duped and worthless after you leave the game or actually stay in your inventory? The point is you can sit there and argue which game is better all you want... Hands down, both have great and bad qualities... and no one will ever be able to pull out some random factoid or opinion that is going to convert anyones mind on which game they prefer... PoE obviously can't be doing that bad if these people who hate the game so much actually felt obligated to form such a strong opinion that they created an account and posted something on the forums... hate is hate but view counts and site traffic isn't prejudiced to love or hate of the product... Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
—Mark Twain |
|
" lol. that was just listing the bad qualities and half of it isn't even true. you can't have played d2 for long if you think hammerdin is the only viable char. not sure if serious. Last edited by Quentym#6108 on Feb 2, 2013, 8:06:03 AM
|
|
" No....troll... My words were this: " Reading Comprehension? I was referring, to ONE build at a time. "huuu" indeed. Now get back under your bridge. In other games - you get a cookie whether you win or lose. PoE not only takes your cookie and eats it in front of you, it slaps you upside the head a few times for bringing a cookie in the first place.
|
|
" care to elaborate on which parts weren't true? Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
—Mark Twain |
|
|
tbh commodx has some good points...its correct about armor and hp. evasion is still somehow useless or even dogde.
but i prefer the depth of the passive skiltree and the gems/support gems. some levels like chamber of sins have the same atmosphere like diablo |
|
" As someone who was in the Diablo 2 closed beta, came up with the Meleemancer build and had many, many alts (none of which were hammerdins), I want to say that your assertions about Diablo 2 'as it really was' are myopic at best. What you describe may indeed have happened, but in trying to separate 'as you know' and 'as it really happened', you're insulting anyone who 'knew it' differently to what you say 'really happened'. The implication is that people are misremembering or didn't 'experience' the real Diablo 2. Which is crap, quite frankly. __ To answer the OP: right now, I remember that D2 had stamina, far worse lag than PoE for me (I'm Australian), black walls of death, and multi-shot lightning enchant monsters...so I enjoy PoE more now than I ever did D2. I'm just waiting on more skills so that more 'D2 like' builds will be possible. If I like a game, it'll either be amazing later or awful forever. There's no in-between. I am Path of Exile's biggest whale. Period. Last edited by Foreverhappychan#4626 on Feb 2, 2013, 8:13:51 AM
|
|
|
D2 will always be special to me just for the number of years I was able to enjoy it. It is hard to compare it with a brand new game(new to me anyway). I must say though that PoE is the first game to come along since then that is holding my attention in a similar way.
|
|
" I should have prefaced that statement with the statement 'Diablo 2 as many of you experienced it:' And also I did close by stating that Diablo 2 had good qualities about the game... which is not an opinion since there is raw data which proves it as in life span of the game and sales... What I was merely pointing out was that to the average person SOME of the problems I listed were a common problem, so much so that Blizzard even took notice of many of them and even attempted to fix a few of them... I wasn't trying to discredit anyones playability or experience with the game, just remind some of the people here in this thread that the game may not be exactly as they remember and that they should keep the game at the level it was at, not place it high on a pedestal out of nostalgic sake Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.
—Mark Twain |
|
" 1 viable build (hammerdin)- > Wrong, necromancer with poison, lighting sorc, orb/méteor sorc/ "wind" druid.. and more. Hammerdin was indeed the best simply because it could handle everything : PVP, PVE, diablo clone.. etc. Many ppl still enjoy diablo II THANKS to bots & d2jsp. Without them you are unable to get a strong stuff. I never used any hacks but overused d2jsp. Bad or not is not the question, I had fun. Regarding the dupe issue, I guess you stopped d2 a very long time ago. | |
" I can agree with most of what you said matrix, except for a couple of things. First of all, hammerdins were not the only viable class for soloing hell mode. I had plenty of alts that were able to take on hell and farm it without a hammerdin such as a; Lightning Sorc, Summoner Necro, Auradin, Smiter, WW Barb, Java Amazon, Bow Zon, and Wolf Druid. I can name many more builds I experimented with in hell mode that were all able to solo and even do solo ubers. You also mentioned that there were only 1 or 2 viable pvp builds for each class, which is wrong. You're looking at there being at least 3-5 pvp builds per class. I can PM you a list if you like. [edit] My post got cut off.. Last edited by kinoshi#1940 on Feb 2, 2013, 9:09:30 AM
|
|
