Played D3:RoS since release till now, heres the results!

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

Why would I want to rmt if I can actually find items of value? If I can actually gear and craft myself towards an endgame build? \

I think you would be surprised at the amount of people who will take a shortcut no matter how small...

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

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ancalagon3000 wrote:

Dude, it will bring it down bigtime. As it is now, RMT is too rampant and the game's model is the reason for it.

But that is just an assumption.

Who knows the point at what people stop using RMT.

It is not just an assumption, it is a logical one. Why would I want to rmt if I can actually find items of value? If I can actually gear and craft myself towards an endgame build? Not everyone makes charan money. Plus I never said stop, again reduce.

People RMT because it takes them too long to get xyz.
So what is a appropriate time, in their eyes, to get xyz?

Halve the time? A fourth?

Like I said, I don't have anything against better droprates. But it may not have the effect on RMT that many wish it to have. And as long as RMT exists in a noticable or at least percieved noticable way (people who think everyone with x amount of exalts does RMT), people will complain about it and say we need better drops.

You could make Kaoms Heart's drop from the heavens and you would still have RMT in this game.

And any other game where player interaction/trading is available.

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Defile8080 wrote:

and LOL You're comparing not getting upgrades in D3 to POE. Is that a joke?

If you want an upgrade in POE you BUY IT. Plain and simple. If you want an upgrade in D3 you play for a while and hope whatever drops is what your after.

This, POE promotes RMT. In ROS you stick it out and the legendaries drop, and that is how it should be. I shouldnt have to get my items in my first 5 hours playtime, but I shouldnt have to spend days on end in tradechat or get a credit card out to buy a ST or AA or mjolner or shavs. RMT is everywhere, I dont care how well the guys with 10000 ex in items hide it, it is plain obvious to see.

In ROS they are doing an amazing thing, if you play self found you will have a T6 character. Proof? (1) No trading so they cant have bought them and (2) Look at the profiles of certain players for the gear they acquired that DROPPED for them, with builds that can play in t6. NOW the endgame in ROS is arguably not as good as poe's ... Poe is more exciting ... BUT that is another story.

In poe .... what % of the population can realistically get BOR, kaoms, windripper, shavs, AA, ST, COE, mjolner, lioneyes? If you think that is fine, you are messed in the head. ROS model is pretty damn strong right now, they learnt from their mistakes and GGG should learn from them. I am forced to plan a character that uses no uniques in POE right now because I know I will never get them .... that is your idea of fun? Please dude... get real with me, what use are these amazing uniques as you say, if I need to play the game 24/7 for weeks on end, or dish out a credit card, to obtain them? In ROS I had tons of legendaries drop, some were garbage (but this happens in poe too) and a lot were very good for levelling, and some of them are BIS items for my build already. And I played for about <100 hours for this. If a roll doesnt turn out that good in ROS, you can enchant one roll on it as much as you want ... to get crit chance or str or % dmg .... at a cost, which is reasonable and the materials needed drop frequently in the game world. 'Crafting' and 'rerolling' in poe .... a fucking joke. You need exalts and eternals, which we all know are again exclusive to the elite minority of the community, ie nolifers and RMTERs ---> which most of the time are really the same.


THAT is an honest and unbiased assessment, not your bs post, OP.

I am so sorry for your anger. But, let me explain something to you so you might better understand.

My post, was my opinion. Something that every person can voice as different from my own. Can any player realistically get Kaoms, Shavs, etc? Yep. Legacy maybe, maybe not. But I can assure you, that of most of those people playing Standard, they do not feel inadequate to those with legacy items. The mature population, get the fuck over it and move on, and those that really want legacy items will work for them. I mean really, if it doesn't affect me, then why should I care, and why should you.

As in Diablo 3: Reaper of Fuckin Souls, when Shard of Hate was so freakin 'OP', the community cried and complained and moaned, because it was soooo OP. Talk about a mature bunch. Whining because something they didn't have was actually awesome to strive for. Same can be said for Thunderfury. Did it really affect other players? No. It's call jealousy, and it was ripe then, as it is now in different forms. I have yet to see a Shard of Hate, and finally found a Thunderfury. But guess what, Thunderfury isn't that great, and fire is still all the rage.

Now, you say that this loot 2.0 is better, and that you can do all the content solo in the game. Granted it is better than vanilla, you still have no choice. You have no diversity except for deciding on 'What rune do I want to use now because I am a bit bored of this one'.

Now, to something we can both agree with. I to am not fond of the current crafting system. I do wish some things would change. But I am not going to realistically expect that if GGG improves upon their crafting, that it will enable everyone to craft BiS gear. As for linking, I think there is a huge gap in balance between success and failure. Someone can link in 1, and someone could use 5000+ fusings to 6L something. The gap is just sadistic imo. Am I crying for an easier PoE? Nope. I want this game to remain hard, and punishing in a way. It is the overarching theme of Wraeclast. Lack of hope, sadness everywhere, sadistic and melancholy atmospheres.

Oh, and PoE does not promote RMT. That is like saying, if you don't want to serve your time in jail for the crime, then you would rather skip it by bribing the witness at the scene of the crime. There will always be those people that will take shortcuts if available to them, illegal or not. RMT is a by product of all online games with accessible economies. Welcome to online gaming.

I just look at it this way. The top players can have their fun and enjoy the full game because all of the lower levels are doing the work for them.
Hence why I simply stopped trading lower level orbs to them.
If more people do this, supplies will run dry and we might actually get some changes that benefit all of us.

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xSyK0TiC wrote:

As in Diablo 3: Reaper of Fuckin Souls, when Shard of Hate was so freakin 'OP', the community cried and complained and moaned, because it was soooo OP. Talk about a mature bunch. Whining because something they didn't have was actually awesome to strive for. Same can be said for Thunderfury. Did it really affect other players? No. It's call jealousy, and it was ripe then, as it is now in different forms. I have yet to see a Shard of Hate, and finally found a Thunderfury. But guess what, Thunderfury isn't that great, and fire is still all the rage.

That is complete bullshit. I found a shard of hate the day before it was nerfed and I am very glad that is was nerfed. Now I even have one for my monk aswell. It was ridiculously overpowered. It was a bug that made it proc 2-3 times per second when dual wielding and using Whirlwind or Tempest Rush. It was something like 80-90% of a WW barbs DPS came from the proc effect alone. (If people are curious the proc effect is 3 bolt of lightning that deal significant damage and can hit the same target if you stand close enough).
It's still the best weapon for lightning builds, so what are you complaining about?!

Balance REALLY matters. It's not about jealousy. Why do people have such a hard time understanding that balance is in important in games?

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Hyskoa wrote:

I just look at it this way. The top players can have their fun and enjoy the full game because all of the lower levels are doing the work for them.
Hence why I simply stopped trading lower level orbs to them.
If more people do this, supplies will run dry and we might actually get some changes that benefit all of us.

There are a lot of problems with this...
Why on earth do you feel like you're doing the work for others when you trade things?
You've worked for your orbs. They worked for their item. You trade. That's it. There's no "lower levels doing all the work for them". That's absurd...

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xSyK0TiC wrote:

As in Diablo 3: Reaper of Fuckin Souls, when Shard of Hate was so freakin 'OP', the community cried and complained and moaned, because it was soooo OP. Talk about a mature bunch. Whining because something they didn't have was actually awesome to strive for. Same can be said for Thunderfury. Did it really affect other players? No. It's call jealousy, and it was ripe then, as it is now in different forms. I have yet to see a Shard of Hate, and finally found a Thunderfury. But guess what, Thunderfury isn't that great, and fire is still all the rage.

That is complete bullshit. I found a shard of hate the day before it was nerfed and I am very glad that is was nerfed. Now I even have one for my monk aswell. It was ridiculously overpowered. It was a bug that made it proc 2-3 times per second when dual wielding and using Whirlwind or Tempest Rush. It was something like 80-90% of a WW barbs DPS came from the proc effect alone. (If people are curious the proc effect is 3 bolt of lightning that deal significant damage and can hit the same target if you stand close enough).
It's still the best weapon for lightning builds, so what are you complaining about?!

Balance REALLY matters. It's not about jealousy. Why do people have such a hard time understanding that balance is in important in games?

No it really doesn't It's how blizzard is ruining their games because they don't know a god dam thing about balance.

Neither do you.

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Hyskoa wrote:

I just look at it this way. The top players can have their fun and enjoy the full game because all of the lower levels are doing the work for them.
Hence why I simply stopped trading lower level orbs to them.
If more people do this, supplies will run dry and we might actually get some changes that benefit all of us.

There are a lot of problems with this...
Why on earth do you feel like you're doing the work for others when you trade things?
You've worked for your orbs. They worked for their item. You trade. That's it. There's no "lower levels doing all the work for them". That's absurd...

They're richer and can influence the marketprice of goods. Meaning they can devalue lower orbs as much as they can to make sure what they have becomes higher in value. Meaning they can enjoy more of the game for less of their effort.
Hence why finding the uber rares has basically become the same as winning the lottery. Prices of legacy uniques being the pinnacle of disgust.

So yes, the normal players get shafted by people who hold all the gating uniques for specific builds.
With drop rates as low as they are in poe, it doesn't surprise me one bit that people RMT. If I wasn't such a tight ass about money, I'd be running around in full legacy unique gear myself.
Because fuck finding it myself or playing the trading game with the deck stacked against me.

I sincerely hope every low level player simply stops trading all the lower level currency to show GGG and high level players just how shit the system is.