Are the Devs still making the game they want to play?

I dont see the problem tbh.

U have a choice, as long as you can find other people, who like to fight over loot like you do, u can make a FFA group?

But u cant really blame that the majority of people thinks its stupid and ruining the game, when u have to fight over loot, and risk it getting stolen.


Yeah, its sad when u want something, that allmost everyone else dont want. But really not any way to change that, without ruining the game for the majority of players :)

So, just an idea.

Hostility only available in FFA loot parties. If you go hostile, there's a 5 second warning. Once hostile is activated, no portals can be used until there is no one left in the instance that's hostile. If someone dies, any loot collected in the last 60 seconds is dropped.

I dunno, could be fun if fully fleshed out and implemented well. Kinda a mini cut throat, and would get the no-dps loot gankers their just reward.

I sort of touched on it before but i want to make this clear.

The fact that people do not want "loot tention" in a game that esentialy is about grinding loot then we as gamers have a big problem.

How lazy can u be ? ?

This always brings me back to this overtone of the gamer world whare people want evreything handed to them on a silver plater just for instaling a game. Ironicaly this ties into the self found ladder threads in a way. " I want more loot faster eayser " " and i don't want to trade or do anything for it " " i just want it to drop as my will determins i need it "

Turn my brain off and just let me farm , in peace , alone , and i want more stuff than the next guy.

Get real guys. I thought during closed beta the loot timer was a MORE than fair comprimize to the loot situation. During open beta this timer was incressed making it even more fair for others. But now with the dominince of PA loot Both the comprimize and the original idea of interesting loot tention is simply gone from the game.

I am a player who is offten at around 250 ping. If any 1 has a reason to want short alot. dew to conection isues it's me.

So what do we do ?


Well the curent system of having the choice is working well , it's a very small minority of people who see a problem with it. Lets just not fuck with them, i mean let them be , thare loss till they learn the true ways of the loot force.

Insted i propose that all races for next season have FFA loot option ONLY. 2 week races will be a great enviroment to teach players that FFA loot can be really interesting, fun , challanging , and also a good way to initiate interaction with others. In the race community "loot ninja's " will be identified quickly and dealt with , getting kicked out of partys is a big blow in a race .

races that last 2 houres will be very interesting as time is so important , as was said some of the more stream lined racers alreays have FFA to safe time so this is not that big a transition for them. Pub groups in races will become much more interesting and give players the chance to surpass what they could other wise gain .

Solo races are still solo with no trading so this dose not effect them at all.


This would not fix the problem of FFA loot mode being dead in the main game servers right away however it would help to show people that the option has merit and can be used to have fun and incresse the depth of the game. perhaps creating more people who want to play FFA in the main game

Only way to make FFA a used mode is to allow the gankee to punch the ganker in the nose and take his shit back. Otherwise, theres absolutely NO REASON for someone who makes themselves useful in a party to use it. Pure FFA without consequence for being a dick just benefits the dick.

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SirSid wrote:

This always brings me back to this overtone of the gamer world whare people want evreything handed to them on a silver plater just for instaling a game. Ironicaly this ties into the self found ladder threads in a way. " I want more loot faster eayser " " and i don't want to trade or do anything for it " " i just want it to drop as my will determins i need it "

People like you not only don't get it but you don't want to get it.

A SFL has never ever been about getting loot easier, which is common sense because (as I have said before) nothing is easier than trading.

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b15h09 wrote:

Only way to make FFA a used mode is to allow the gankee to punch the ganker in the nose and take his shit back. Otherwise, theres absolutely NO REASON for someone who makes themselves useful in a party to use it. Pure FFA without consequence for being a dick just benefits the dick.

If you replace "only way" with "the best way I can think of," and "punch the ganker in the nose" is interpreted to mean some form of PvP, then I think I'm in agreement here.

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b15h09 wrote:

Only way to make FFA a used mode is to allow the gankee to punch the ganker in the nose and take his shit back. Otherwise, theres absolutely NO REASON for someone who makes themselves useful in a party to use it. Pure FFA without consequence for being a dick just benefits the dick.

Don`t focous on that 1 bad guy looting and bragging about it being a `dick head ninja`

thars more positive in FFA loot than negitive , yes u have to deal with the odd jerk however the merits outweigh the disadvnatage .

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iamstryker wrote:

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SirSid wrote:

This always brings me back to this overtone of the gamer world whare people want evreything handed to them on a silver plater just for instaling a game. Ironicaly this ties into the self found ladder threads in a way. " I want more loot faster eayser " " and i don't want to trade or do anything for it " " i just want it to drop as my will determins i need it "

People like you not only don't get it but you don't want to get it.

A SFL has never ever been about getting loot easier, which is common sense because (as I have said before) nothing is easier than trading.

PLz send me a PM and let me know why this is. Im trying to understand this .

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iamstryker wrote:

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SirSid wrote:

This always brings me back to this overtone of the gamer world whare people want evreything handed to them on a silver plater just for instaling a game. Ironicaly this ties into the self found ladder threads in a way. " I want more loot faster eayser " " and i don't want to trade or do anything for it " " i just want it to drop as my will determins i need it "

People like you not only don't get it but you don't want to get it.

A SFL has never ever been about getting loot easier, which is common sense because (as I have said before) nothing is easier than trading.

PLz send me a PM and let me know why this is. Im trying to understand this . [/quote]

Don't feed the Mogwai after midnight!!!!! What are you thinking???

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SirSid wrote:

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b15h09 wrote:

Only way to make FFA a used mode is to allow the gankee to punch the ganker in the nose and take his shit back. Otherwise, theres absolutely NO REASON for someone who makes themselves useful in a party to use it. Pure FFA without consequence for being a dick just benefits the dick.

Don`t focous on that 1 bad guy looting and bragging about it being a `dick head ninja`

thars more positive in FFA loot than negitive , yes u have to deal with the odd jerk however the merits outweigh the disadvnatage .

Just going from my own early OB experience. Being competent ranged DPS sucked balls in FFA. Carry half the party just to have the scrubs hoover the loot. Wasn't much fun. I didn't see the merits.

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ScrotieMcB wrote:

If you replace "only way" with "the best way I can think of," and "punch the ganker in the nose" is interpreted to mean some form of PvP, then I think I'm in agreement here.

lol, yes. I mean, 'the best way I can think of' incentivizing FFA usage is to allow consequence for being a dick, preferably in the form of PvP.

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b15h09 wrote:

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SirSid wrote:

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b15h09 wrote:

Only way to make FFA a used mode is to allow the gankee to punch the ganker in the nose and take his shit back. Otherwise, theres absolutely NO REASON for someone who makes themselves useful in a party to use it. Pure FFA without consequence for being a dick just benefits the dick.

Don`t focous on that 1 bad guy looting and bragging about it being a `dick head ninja`

thars more positive in FFA loot than negitive , yes u have to deal with the odd jerk however the merits outweigh the disadvnatage .

Just going from my own early OB experience. Being competent ranged DPS sucked balls in FFA. Carry half the party just to have the scrubs hoover the loot. Wasn't much fun. I didn't see the merits.

This.