Are the Devs still making the game they want to play?

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DalaiLama wrote:

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Perq wrote:

FFA is ONLY usuable when you're playing friends. Public parties are ONLY PA, end of story. I can't quite see the point of FFA in public parties, where everyone will focus on getting loot, instead of actually fighting the mobs.

In fact, I don't understand why SA is default setting for parties. Public parties are the ones you switch between very frequently - thus PA should be default setting, so you don't have set it every time.

While the vast majority of public games are PA, I don't think they all need to be or should be.

The following has been my experience in public games, YMMV:

With a good team of players in an SA game, the focus is on the killing and players seem to know what they are looking for. Some ignore most armor drops except for a few types, some are just after jewelry and belts (not sure why boots aren't nabbed that often, they tend to be a low percentage drop for me when trying for chaos recipes). I've seen many lower tier unique items left, and occasionally higher level ones. With a good team, players generally expect the others to pick up a nice unique drop, and only move in if the player who dropped it seems to be ignoring it.

In the past week or so, I've seen Windripper, Lioneye's Glare, Heartbreaker, Carcass Jack, Ming's Heart and Marylene's Fallacy drop in public SA games without a single other player darting over to try and grab them.

I've also seen Sunblast, Magnate, Blood Dance, Geofri's Crest, Hrimnor's Resolve and a slew of other uniques left on the ground by the allocated player who just didn't want them. In a few cases, other players pointed it out, and the "allocated" player usually replied they didn't need them.

In couple of games, I've seen nice uniques where the person about to pick it up, checks if anyone needs it before they do.

This isn't to say all such public SA games are this way, but at least currently, they aren't as bad as some might think.

One thing I do notice, is that more players are contributing, or trying to contribute to the killing in the SA games.

I think the option is nice, and having the option might mean an improved chance of a better quality of player in many public SA games. I could be wrong on this - it's just been my impression.

I do wish there was some incentive so that there were more SA and FFA games. Maybe a 'medium" allocation?

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Mark_GGG wrote:

But presenting your argument by claiming that SA isn't in the game, and the game isn't what we want to play any more, is wrong. And at least in this dev's case, talking about "how the dev's want to play" has no relevance to public parties, since they have no overlap.

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Chris wrote:

- It's important that the time is low enough that the player can only get the item if they are paying attention and make an effort to immediately grab it.
- The allocation times can be lower or non-existent in hardcore or cut-throat leagues.

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Chris wrote:

Players who wanted an allocated looting system will hopefully be happy that this system mitigates item loss due to latency and travel distance.

Players who wanted a free-for-all looting system will hopefully be pleased - with this system they can take any item they want if the allocated player is not paying attention to the drops.