Offer 1 alch + 1 scour: "Sorry, I prefer chaos"

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Holocaustus wrote:

What puzzles me is why people sell scourings 2:1 chaos when they can get a regret for that which sells for 2C.

And that's why is I find very interesting that someone would prefers chaos to alch+scour. They're rejecting better deal.

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Holocaustus wrote:

What puzzles me is why people sell scourings 2:1 chaos when they can get a regret for that which sells for 2C.

atleast on any hc league regrets have never really been over 1 chaos


to OP:

alch+ scour is more valuable than chaos due to its other funktions + same funktion as chaos. thing is that people are stupid and dont realise this, and every1 in this thread saying it takes time to transfer it to chaos orbs.... thats the whole point, you wouldn't have to trade them to chaos if people realised this.

some1 said that the mistake was made that you think the person selling item is going to use orbs for crafting, that is pretty much always the case, currency items will get consumed, not maybe the first buyer or the next they will. not including some few people who just want to have 1000 exalts in their stash doing nothing for some unknown reason

For the same reason US dollars are preferred over say... dihrams of equivalent value. They are a more easily traded currency. Not to mention they are less prone to fluctuations in value.

save alch + scour for rolling maps, use chaos to trade

I myself prefer pure chaos too as I find it more challenging to buy something with different orbs equivalent. I get that someone is angry people don't accept alch + scour or whatever but if you trade in big numbers (not me, I mean guys running high evel maps with several stashes of stuff ready to sell) I guess you don't want to lose time trying to change stuff to chaos separately as I can't imagine buying e.g. Alpha's howl with bazilion alchs.

tldr: It is annoying that someone doesn't accept alch and stuff but I can see their reason behind that.

Functions of Alchemy: (1) Convert normal item to rare
Functions of Scouring: (1) Delevel a skill gem, (2) return an item back to white base so that a Transmutation/Alchemy/Chance Orb can be used, (3) two can be vendored for a Regret Orb.

Functions of Chaos: (1) Rerolls a rare item

Yes, the result of Chaos = result of Scouring + Alchemy... but by themselves, Scourings and Alchemies can be used to do more things.

I tend to accept whatever currency thrown at me, because I actually use that stuff.

However, 1 chaos > alch+scour.

I can pay with chaos very easily while shopping, but I would most likely have to accept a worse trade ratio if I try to pay with scour/alch/chisel/regal/fusing etc.
If I get the trade done at all.

Chaos are a "real currency", they are accepted by most players.

Alchs and Scours are not. They are "crafting material" that has some value, but they are no real currency.

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And don't hang on to your ratios. They are an illusion.

If you say "30 chaos = 1 exalt", that's just a rough estimation.
If I have to spam the trade chat for 5 hours to exchange my 30c to 1 ex, but the guy with 1 ex can just write it once and get the job done, the "real" ratio is most likely 32-35:1, as with the same amount of time spent, he would have been able to sell it for 32-35+ easily.

Fusings jump around from 2-3:1 chaos all the time, depending on the needs. If someone doesn't actually need them, he will want 3 fusing for 1 chaos, if he desperatly wants to link an item, he will buy for 2:1...

I am one of those "I prefer Chaos" and here is why. Most people do not accept alchs as payment for items worth more than few Chaos. If i have 50 alchs in my stash, all i can do with them is use them for crafting. I use alchs for crafting occasionally to yolo alch some rigns or amulets and i don't need many of them. Usually the ones i found are sufficient to do that.

Try offering 40 alchs for an item worth 20 chaos to a seller. I think like 1-2 persons out of 10 would accept this payment. I am not going to spend 10 times more time to find a seller who is willing to sell me something for alchs if i can jut buy it without any problems with chaos.
Theefore Alchemy Orbs = almost worthless for me = i don't accept it as a payment.
People are already trading 3 Alchs for 1 chaos in Invasion and 3 regrets for 2 chaos.

You can basically compare it to someone's, living in Europe, willingness to accept payment for his product or service in Chineese Yuan. What the hell would i do with chineese yuan except go to the bank and change it to the currency i can pay with in my country. The problem is that in POE, you have to find the bank first.

It's a question about what is more tradable for the guy you're selling to.

I mean, yeah, sure if he's using the stuff you're giving him for crafting items for himself, that stuff is fine. But if he intends to trade more with the currency he gets from you, then chaos orbs are preferable to him.

Thing is, it's not at all like trying to buy something in Euros with Yuan or other foreign currency, it's like buying a 1 dollar candy bar with four quarters, except bizarrely enough, they are actually 20 cent pieces that are worth 1 dollar if you have four of them together instead of 80 cents, they are more useful than a dollar bill, and for some reason the store you went to has convinced its self that paper money is the only acceptable currency despite the previous two points.


For fucks sake, it's only difficult to trade because everybody says it's difficult to trade!