Brian's Feedback to Looting (quote from reddit)

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PanicAK wrote:

I like the current system, and I agree that it fits the game very well. At the same time, I do think it needs some tweaking. Maybe longer timers on certain item types, or even larger names to click on to make looting easier for the correct person. The most annoying part of the current system is when you're standing there TRYING to get you loot, but you just can't for whatever reason, and some vulture get's it instead.

Another idea is to completely hide items with a timer from other players until the timer is up. It is very frustrating to watch players vulture over your loot every single fucking time, trying to snag it before you can. It would also fit with your idea of keeping the game moving.

OMG, also well said...hero cookies for you too...FYI I am out of them now.

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Survious wrote:

So if I am ranged and you are melee and the boss dies and you are closer to the loot, how is that having the same chance? Even with a timer some classes have an advantage to get to the loot before someone else...that is not a fair playing field.

More and more I read this, the more I realize that people pro-FFA know they have an advantage over others then loot, which is why they do not want to see FFA loot. Cause they have to rely on the random drops and trading over how much faster they can get there over someone else.

The more and more I read your post, the more it becomes apparent that you have no idea what you're talking about, your reading comprehension skills are lacking, your Hand-eye coordination skills are sub-standard, and you probably have Diablo 3 on Run-on-Startup.


I'll say it again, just like many others have said.

The loot times on items are based on your distance from the creature that drops the item.

Melee are actually at a DISADVANTAGE because they usually get 2-3 rare drops per boss, and their timers are around 1 second. You must prioritize.

But you lovely ranged folk that get to sit back and poke the boss with arrows and magic, your loot timers are 4-5 seconds. You get the luxury of visually identifying every rare+ that drops for you, and you can pick up what you want.

If you're a ranged class, and your loot timer was 1 second, get the fuck out of melee like you're supposed to.


Diablo 2, the undisputed King of ARPG's, had no loot timer. Stop being pussies. The most exhilarating part of Diablo 2 was the explosion of Uniques from Baal. Click everything as fast as you can, Hopefully you're clicking on the right spot at the right time.

NO ONE complained about Diablo 2's loot. We weren't a generation of morons, babies, pussies, and cry babies. Want to know how many 'Windforce' I got from Diablo 2? None. Want to know how many I saw drop? 3.

C'est la Vie. I made up for it with the fact that I saw an Immortal King's Soul Cage drop, and I grabbed it. I made up for it with the fact that I picked up a perfect Mara.

You win some, you lose some. Stop bitching about loot. If you haven't contributed to this game via your wallet, your opinions don't mean shit to anyone here. I didn't donate as much money as some people here, but I was in Closed Beta and I've purchased some things from the Shop when Open Beta opened.

Why did I pay? Because I'm the kind of person this game caters to. I'm not an 18 year old whiny Diablo 3 fanatic. I'm not a 50 year old "my hand-eye skills are of yesteryear, please give me all the loot ever" geezer.

If you did not develop this game, fuck off. It's not your game. If you rented Mega Man 3 and you thought that Needle Man was just too god damn hard, you didn't write Capcom telling them to release a new copy of the game because you can't fucking hit B and A and use the right ability to defeat Needle Man. God forbid you ever got to Proto Man or Dr. Wily.

TL;DR, shut the fuck up.

You're god damn right I'm mad.

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You win some, you lose some. Stop bitching about loot. If you haven't contributed to this game via your wallet, your opinions don't mean shit to anyone here. I didn't donate as much money as some people here, but I was in Closed Beta and I've purchased some things from the Shop when Open Beta opened.

So you have to pay to be part of the active community.

FYI I was also in closed beta...just because I do not have a supporter tag, doesn't mean I wasn't in it...though from your ignorance I should suspect you wouldn't know that.

Also how do you know if I used the shop or not. Well I haven't, I will Monday when I get paid...need some bag space since I am going to be playing this for awhile.

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You're god damn right I'm mad.

I told you I have no hero cookies left, I am sorry...and I wish I was 18 again.

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If you did not develop this game, fuck off. It's not your game. If you rented Mega Man 3 and you thought that Needle Man was just too god damn hard, you didn't write Capcom telling them to release a new copy of the game because you can't fucking hit B and A and use the right ability to defeat Needle Man. God forbid you ever got to Proto Man or Dr. Wily.

Oh I am so sorry, I didn't know this was your game. Never played MM3, sorry...but no one said anything about being hard...I just talking about FFA loot...so you are a bit off topic.

You come off as a person who like FFA just so you can ninja loot, just my opinion or you are feeling threatened by someones opinion. Which is a shame because people have a right to that last time I checked...at least where I am from you are allowed, not sure about you.

What people are failing to understand at the lootings most basic degree is sometimes you have no chance at picking up an item that drops for you, various obstacles impede making it to items on time

And if you really think having to position yourself for the potential loot drop prior to the targets death, and ignoring anything and everything else currently going on or being fought on the screen to loot mid fight is nothing short of anything less then a broken mechanic

And boss fights when it item dumps and everyone spam clicks while item names and types are trying to settle into a pile on the ground

There has to be a happy medium somewhere while leaving the current concept intact but taking some of the sheer lunacy out of the equation

Might as well go back to d2 telekinesis loots

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sdkaylor wrote:

The more and more I read your post, the more it becomes apparent that you have no idea what you're talking about, your reading comprehension skills are lacking, your Hand-eye coordination skills are sub-standard, and you probably have Diablo 3 on Run-on-Startup.

Now, I'm not taking sides, I just wanted to neutrally point out that that reminded me of this, and I thank you for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOAMm-Ll4Y

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sdkaylor wrote:

The more and more I read your post, the more it becomes apparent that you have no idea what you're talking about, your reading comprehension skills are lacking, your Hand-eye coordination skills are sub-standard, and you probably have Diablo 3 on Run-on-Startup.

Having Diablo 3 on start up is...bad? WOW!

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sdkaylor wrote:

Diablo 2, the undisputed King of ARPG's, had no loot timer.

Which implies that this is what made it the undisputed king of ARPGS. And which is completely wrong. It had no loot timer cause back then there wasn't anything else...

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sdkaylor wrote:

Stop being pussies.

In a PVE game. You are a kitten caught in a distortion field thinking you are a lion.

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sdkaylor wrote:

The most exhilarating part of Diablo 2 was the explosion of Uniques from Baal. Click everything as fast as you can, Hopefully you're clicking on the right spot at the right time.

If THAT was the best thing in the game then it must have been quite a shitty game. Haven't played it for long, but was it REALLY that bad ?

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sdkaylor wrote:

NO ONE complained about Diablo 2's loot. We weren't a generation of morons, babies, pussies, and cry babies.

As said before, no one complained cause they didn't know any better. Before the fire, no one ate cooked meal. Does your "we weren't a generation of morons" apply as well? And btw, how old are you? Cause I played video games long before diablo 2 (or 1 for that matter).

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sdkaylor wrote:

You win some, you lose some. Stop bitching about loot.

I'm personally not bitchingabout late. I'm bitching about having FFA in a PVE game. Allowing one way griefs. You steal my loot and I'm not allowed to rape your corpse for that. You are a carebear that feels hardcore by griefing people cause the game mechanics protect him. If I could kill you, rape your corpse and then feed your full of sperm carcass to your mum, would you still try to ninja loot? I bet you wouldn't. Cause you are a carebear.

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sdkaylor wrote:

If you haven't contributed to this game via your wallet, your opinions don't mean shit to anyone here. I didn't donate as much money as some people here, but I was in Closed Beta and I've purchased some things from the Shop when Open Beta opened.

Wait, WHAT? Are you really saying this? Then a diamond comes in the room "if you haven't payed 1k$ dollars your opinion dont mean shit either". Now, back to your cave TROLL.

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sdkaylor wrote:

Why did I pay? Because I'm the kind of person this game caters to.

So you admit that you are a carebear trying to grief people cause the game mechanics protect him. Good. Now we are talking. Tommorow go to the zoo and throw rocks to a caged lion. You are SO hardcore.

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sdkaylor wrote:

I'm not an 18 year old whiny Diablo 3 fanatic. I'm not a 50 year old "my hand-eye skills are of yesteryear, please give me all the loot ever" geezer..

I haven't touched Diablo 3 btw. Im not 18 either. BUt what is wrong with either of them, I really don't know. You are paranoid

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sdkaylor wrote:

If you did not develop this game, fuck off.

And since YOU did NOT develop the game, FUCK OFF INDEED!! You sir, are an idiot

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sdkaylor wrote:

It's not your game.

It's not your game either :)

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sdkaylor wrote:

If you rented Mega Man 3 and you thought that Needle Man was just too god damn hard, you didn't write Capcom telling them to release a new copy of the game because you can't fucking hit B and A and use the right ability to defeat Needle Man. God forbid you ever got to Proto Man or Dr. Wily.

So, the hardest games you have played thus far are megaman and diablo 2. K, that's why you think POE is "hardcore" GL mate, you are the chuck norris of the gaming industry.

i personally love FFA system but i think timer or personal loot is a great idea.

BUT PoE should encourage FFA loot system.

i believe the right way is to encourage FFA loot system but have with an option of non FFA.

by encourage, i mean increased drop rate, in poe term , quality or quantity.

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moikpei wrote:

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sdkaylor wrote:

The more and more I read your post, the more it becomes apparent that you have no idea what you're talking about, your reading comprehension skills are lacking, your Hand-eye coordination skills are sub-standard, and you probably have Diablo 3 on Run-on-Startup.

Now, I'm not taking sides, I just wanted to neutrally point out that that reminded me of this, and I thank you for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGOAMm-Ll4Y

HAHAHA!!! love it.

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Ushela wrote:

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Survious wrote:

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Dudebag wrote:

Non Ffa loot idea is great for a lot of people.
But we can't let Ffa loot lovers to have hard time finding a group.

Plz keep that in mind.

It appears allot of people on the forums have allot of support for FFA so how do you feel it is going to be an issue....unless your worried that your the minority and not the majority...or you will loose your outlet on easy loot by screwing others over?

So sick of this mentality...if an item drops you have the same chance of grabbing it as everyone else in the party.

No you don't otherwise people would not be complaining about FFA loot. All sorts of things favour ninjaing from using skills that cross the screen, erecting barriers, ping and so on. God lord man, if it was fair no one would complain!

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No you don't otherwise people would not be complaining about FFA loot. All sorts of things favour ninjaing from using skills that cross the screen, erecting barriers, ping and so on. God lord man, if it was fair no one would complain!

Not all, but I feel like most people are complaining to keep FFA is because they do not wanna loose there free pass to loot.

***pokes at bear with my +1 mace***