Invasion League - Clearly not overtuned.

I just did Restricted Gallery corrupted area in cruel before I head off to Dominus and she still hurts enough to kill terrible players so I can respect any changes GGG did to her and therefore probably all other changes to Invasion bosses. That being said, the weakness of my build is physical damage and if I can kill her and she does a lot of physical than anyone built to tank physical will have zero issues with her now.

And I am not anyone but myself. I've shown multiple items verified that I have and even given my character name for anyone that cares so much to look it up can freely do so on the Invasion ladder. If you want to write people off based on a profile list of characters that aren't deleted, then at least put some effort into your research.
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BisuProbe wrote:
sometimes i think clock, fruz and/or real wolf might be the same person (not to mention their account creation date looks very close in fact).

white knights in other game forums trying to prove their point through multiple accounts is not unheard of.

anyway on topic i hope the patch would have fix most of the one shot stuff, hopefully not creating new ones


I agree, Real-wolf used to be in every single thread all the time and acts exactly like fruz, didnt see Fruz then as much, now its the opposite. But here is wolf again backing up fruz. In the end it dosent matter both will say what ever they can to defend The game no matter what it is.


They may as well be the same guy, each one equally never knows what he is talking about.

lol so let me get this straight, it makes more sense for people who constantly complain to stick around but not people who are 'white knighting'?

Anyways, on the topic I'm torn. HC should be brutal, nothing is fun about never fearing death in a league where you play for the thrill of avoiding it. Although my only play experience in the league was dying 4 times before brutus, so those bosses are quite insane. Then again my internet was horrendous that night leading to DCs every 2-3 minutes and desyncing all over the place.
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Clocksimus wrote:
I just did Restricted Gallery corrupted area in cruel before I head off to Dominus and she still hurts enough to kill terrible players so I can respect any changes GGG did to her and therefore probably all other changes to Invasion bosses. That being said, the weakness of my build is physical damage and if I can kill her and she does a lot of physical than anyone built to tank physical will have zero issues with her now.

And I am not anyone but myself. I've shown multiple items verified that I have and even given my character name for anyone that cares so much to look it up can freely do so on the Invasion ladder. If you want to write people off based on a profile list of characters that aren't deleted, then at least put some effort into your research.



You showed a fragment which you can farm in Ambush also, and you never put your character name up. Even if you did, you could have just picked anyone from the ladder and say that's you. Until you provide solid proof that you actually play Invasion, pretty much everyone that legitimately does is gonna shit bricks all over you because of how much nonsense you were speaking about how mobs weren't 'overtuned' and players just need to 'outplay them' or how players could have 'played better' even though they were getting one shot in half a second.
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Moosifer wrote:
lol so let me get this straight, it makes more sense for people who constantly complain to stick around but not people who are 'white knighting'?

Anyways, on the topic I'm torn. HC should be brutal, nothing is fun about never fearing death in a league where you play for the thrill of avoiding it. Although my only play experience in the league was dying 4 times before brutus, so those bosses are quite insane. Then again my internet was horrendous that night leading to DCs every 2-3 minutes and desyncing all over the place.



Seriously give me a break, Every single thing I have ever complained about in this game has a 30 page thread right now in feedback. From people that paid alot of money in support, let me repeat that for you, EVERY single thing, dont label me as a complainer if all my complaints are justifed and are shared by alot of people in the player base.

White knights are worse, at least I have valid complaints I have issues with, white knights defend just for the hell of it, they go out of there way to back people into a corner that dont know any better for saying anything in the first place. I would go as far to say its as bad as bullying, difference is now more and more people are having the same issues and the white knights are getting out numbered and over run.


This is my last direct reply to you as you seem truly beyond reasoning. If you mouse over the items you can see a tag under verified being Invasion. This is where these items are from and they are verified so still in my possession. One wasn't enough for you to notice so I gave you a few random options this time around to help you grasp the concept.

My exact exp is 128,882,581 You can use this to figure out if I'm "really an Invasion player". I just killed dominus cruel, solo, and a little scared because the first Invasion boss I get in merciless is Cintiq and it simply hurt too much for me to balls up and finish off with my current sub-par gear. I am sitting in act 1 merciless at the time of this post and debating if I should farm ledge for some possible upgrades or just buy them. If you would like my phone number, sorry I'm taken.

On topic
An argument isn't an argument if everyone simply agrees. Simply truth is that believe it or not some people were fine with Invasion even without the recent tweaking of bosses. Yes, a lot of players were also not fine with Invasion in its former state. This is where civil communications between the two sides of an argument can commence to find a suitable middle ground. Saying one said is stupid and knows nothing. They are wrong we are right. Doesn't help the situation in any way, shape, or form. You can be constructive and civil and stick to your opinion and completely disagree, in a civil manner. This practice of constructive arguments to debate opposite points of views, was not exercised in this thread.
Clock, its not that hard to take our profile off Private, yet you went tru all that trouble instead. What are you hiding?
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According to OP's video and math...

The Rain of Spikes attack seemed to hit for about 2000 physical, before armour. A decent chunk, but something even an Evasion character should be able to withstand a single hit of. The Rain isn't one-shotting any but the most fragile characters.

The Spikestorm attack, on the other hand, seems to hit 5 times for about 1200 physical per hit. That's about 6k physical if unmitigated.

In terms of "fixing" this unique...

I understand the design of the Spikestorm attack was to punish players for standing still in one location; the purpose of the skill is that the first hit isn't really supposed to kill you, but you will die if you just stand there. Which is fine and all, but if you're going to do that, there needs to be more time in between the 5 hits. They all come almost instantaneously, when they should be better spread out, so that someone who moves just a smidge late might get hit with one, but not three or more.

So I'm suggesting spreading out the hits... but not actually lowering the damage, neither the damage per hit nor number of hits. If you do nothing but stand still, should still hit you like a tons of bricks. Solution: move!

Another issue is that the boss goes straight from the Spikestorm into a Rain of Spikes, which has a large AoE and thus is very hard to avoid. I feel her AI should be adjusted so she doesn't use either of her two most powerful moves back-to-back, including with each other.
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johnKeys wrote:
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Fruz wrote:
What if this boss' attack isn't pure physical but half physical/half chaos ?
This guy has -30% chaos


and true to the old PoE tradition, the player has absolutely no shred of information or indication that it is, even if that's true...

just out of curiosity: what would it take, to make you admit GGG got something - anything - wrong?
seriously, you should get a fucking badge or something man.


Fruz is one of the guys who was trolling up the poison arrow thread. Apparently a 42 points poison arrow build that does 1/5th the damage of a 42 points explosive arrow build is balanced.

It's safe to just ignore this stuff, I'm becoming convinced that some of these guys are on the GGG payroll.
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BisuProbe wrote:
sometimes i think clock, fruz and/or real wolf might be the same person (not to mention their account creation date looks very close in fact).

That's a low blow, and you have nothing tangible to back up your insinuations. I don't know Clocksimus, but I've read dozens of posts from both Real_Wolf and Fruz and their views are not at all similar. In fact, I can say flat out that I nearly always agree with Real_Wolf's posts and disagree with Fruz's. What they do have in common, however, is that they're both articulate writers, but if that's what makes you suspect they're the same person, you're not picking up much beneath the surface.
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